| | John B
4/12/2011
6:08:11 PM
| Hi Crystal,
We do get a lot of positive feedback with children responding more quickly or easily than adults, and I think Mel is right about their lower cumulative toxic burdens and generally more responsive bodies.
Although our protocol is designed from a dosage standpoint with adults in mind, it is safe for children at lower doses. The thymic tabs can be ground up and mixed with food and the capsules can be opened and divided making dosage adjustments according to body weight.... generally one third to half an adult dose.
I am glad you found this site Crystal... please let us know if you have any additional questions.
Blessings,
John Burgstiner | mel
4/6/2011
11:01:01 AM
| Hiya Crystal,
Welcome.
I am so glad you found this place of safety, learning and encouragement.
It seems that children often times respond very well to just the nutritional support in our protocol (from Logos Nutritionals). I guess their young bodies have less cumulative toxicity to deal with.
John Burgstiner may have some comments to add about children and his vitamins.
Try using our SEARCH ENGINE FEATURE;
Just put in the word "Children"
Thanks for visiting, I hope we helped a little!
Please keeps us posted on the childrens and your progress.
God Bless - Never Give up Hope,
Mel | Crystal
3/30/2011
4:04:22 AM
| Hello everyone! My name is Crystal. Gina, Im so glad you can share your experience. Its so hard to find information on children with this. I have a 2 and a 3 year old who aso suffer. My question to you is, what protocol is your 2 year old using? The wellness protocol? If so, how do you get her to take the capsules? and if not, what do you guys do? Also Do ou know what Will help their pain? Any cream or salve that will stop it? Mel want to say thank you for creating a helpful morgs site that doesnt freak me out. We all have to face this and read about it to survice and live a half way normal life and some of the other sites scared the Bejesus out of me and left me in tears. | Gina
1/2/2010
4:20:43 AM
| Sherry,
I use Bonners peppermint every time I launder clothes, and now every night as bodywash and shampoo. I use Arm and Hammer laundry detergent with it and if the load is whites, I add Chlorox. You are right ...we will win! I shed more stuff from the scalp with the shampooing than I did before with any other products...it's been about four days of this and it seems to be tapering off now. Like I said, the things have holes in them now, so I think the Bonner's kills them the same way the Kleen Green does the black specs...by making holes in them. When they have the fuzz on them, the Kleen Green can't get to them...I watch all this stuff on microscope slides each day...it amazes me! I believe 91% alcohol does get to them with fuzz on them. I have a very fuzzy sweater that I just can't get 'decontaminated' no matter what. If I have it on ten minutes I am tormented by the crawling! I bought a steamer and tried it. It seems once the fuzz balls are steamed, they fall off. It's very hot, I burned my hand to test it! I really want to know what these organisms are. I looked at pics. of bacillus thuringiesis tonight and it looks a lot like what I see on the micropscope...that scares me...hopefully I'm wrong on that. Gina | pamela mae
1/1/2010
8:20:40 PM
| Sweet Sherry,
No Sherry Pam did not say Catnip oil is stronger than Deet.
Pam gave you the blurb from Mountain rose herbs and asked that you read it because I also told you that the humidifier with this stuff might not be such a good idea.
I explained to you that I use the menthol crystals and am in the process of researching the Catnip oil.
Oh my goshy honey---cayenne..please no- oh gosh, no.
Take care,
Pamela mae
| Sherry Taylor
1/1/2010
6:32:55 PM
| Thank you Gina, i'm so glad to hear. I was really concerned to find out young families were getting this.
I'll try the masking tape.
I put my ozonator on and it seems to help.
So you add any other soap besides Dr. Bonner's in laundry?
I've been doing borax, pine or orange(didn't work), oxyclean and Dr. Bonner's shampoo to the laundry..still having problems.
How frequently do you do it?
I tried Dr. Bonner's and salt on my head while in the bath..i think it helped.
And yes the silver definitely helps the eyes.
My oil concoction now is 1/3 Neem, 1/2 castor oil, coconut and cocao oils to top up.. many drops of peppermint oil. It smells bad but seems to sooth the skin.
Also I tried rubbing fresh(I think) cayenne on the trouble areas for me lower arms and legs with a mountain sky massage bar...I just had it.(don't do this on open sores)
I was using some cloves of garlic on a neclace.
Pamela said catnip oil from Alberta is stronger than Deet. I'm trying to loacate it in Vancouver although Mountain Rose carries it. It just seems logical to try to get it here...although Mountain Rose is awesome.
You are right those fuzz balls are dangerous(nests)..and they live in the tiny nooks and cranies of the house too. the fuzz protects them from the cleaners apparently. Clever little devils..but we will win, right?
This increased use of mycotoxins really concerns me though...a Mycologist on Granville Island doing a display..fall is mushroom season..said if you mess with them they may come back to bite you..truer words...
Anyway if we help each other, try various things, and hopefully, someone with organizational skills will organize this..ongoingly..a big job. Please?
As a former kindergarten teacher I know the bigest hurdle was organizing things so the kids could find them. A big job. But that's where things would 'fall down' and they needed to be provided with the structure by me, and monitored.
I don't think it is necessarily 'bad' that some people make money from this but as it does wipe out your finances inexpensive menthods are needed too.
Some people don't have as much disposable income..and you get pretty freaked out when you first get this so you may even 'appear' crazy.
I know I thought that, when I first got this, and saw a video of someone who had had it for a long time...I'm probably like her now...you appear to be 'obsessed about your skin'. Well, yah, if you are being eaten alive...it's too bad about the 'delusional' diagnosis because it is so abusive and slows science down...does a lot of harm..(which doctors are not supposed to do).
I don't want to spend anymore time mad though...i want to get better.
Hilde Staniger can't even mention what she is treating..it's called an 'environmental...something or other..reaction to toxins nano and otherwise.
Whatever you call it..WE WANT TO GET BETTER NOW.
This reminds me of the Vandervilt family fighting the abestos issue saying it is asbestos like(talcum powder)..and the townspeople mining it said,, 'we don't care what you call it, we have a graveyard full of people it has killed'. They lost, the NY state gov't decided it was a Workman's com issue..it died. Lots of people including me got ovarian cancer from the talc migrating up to the ovaries(40% higher risk)..this was 'baby powder' And the Vandervilts knew about this from the 30's. By the late 70's the powder was changed. And the cornstarch one is GMO.
I tried using it(both kinds)..the mites didn't like it...but neither did my body..I got quite a fever.
Every mother should know this...because i dumped it all over my babies, imagine. Sorry i said I was focusing on the present.
Anyway moving forward What are the best antifungals'
I think we should have a thread just on the various categories of remedies..maybe I just haven't found it yet(beginner computer skills)
Sincerely, with much appreciation from Sherry in Canada | Gina **
1/1/2010
3:42:38 PM | Hi!Just wanted to encourage everyone by letting you know how this protocol has helped us. My boy is 5 and he is free of itching and will only have an occassional black speck on his cheek on occassion...nothing else. I no longer get the crawling, except nose tickling and an occassional itch in the ear. My 2 year old girl scratches at her hair on occassion and (very rarely) has black specks around diaper area after bowel movements, which crawl and infest her back too...spray with Kleen Green to eradicate (again this is rare now). They have primarily left her stools, now...but if I let her eat a banana..they are back. One thing I did that really seems to help with environmental reinfection is taping the bed covers and floors (near baseboards and under edges of bed or edges of sofa cushions) with masking tape...By this I mean tapping the tape to pick up the black specs. I do this on floors under edges of throw rugs, too. We rarely feel a 'bite' now. We bathe with the Bonner's peppermint soap, even our hair, and laundry. I look microscopically at the white 'nits' after the peppermint shampooing and they have a hole in them! I also shave all the fuzz balls off all clothes or those will 'bite' too. I believe we drove them out through healthy eating and the wellness protocol supplements/alkalinity...and hope we are eradicating the house now, too. I hope this helps someone to be encouraged. We are looking forward to the New Year, now. Even if it stays as it is...at least it is manageable now. Prayers to you all. Gina | | |
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