Hooray for you! ! You're getting there!
Hi Ruth and welcome.
When Logos introduced the Immune Pulse John stated that he expected those who took it would experience a setback or resurgence of symptoms even though they may have reached a plateau where they were essentially symptom free. As you correctly stated, this is a good thing because it indicates that it is working to access deeper pockets of biofilm and expose pathogens to cellular immune resources and whatever antimicrobials you are taking.
Count it all joy my dear. You are heading down the back stretch!
God Bless; Those who get better never gave up Hope!
I would be grateful for some advice/reassurance at the moment.
I'm just at the end of my 10th month on the protocol and this week started my second month on Immune Pulse. Over the past few days I've had an increase in fibres on my face with itchy sensations, not as severe as in early days but much more than I've been used to having since on the protocol, even over the full moon. Some paper cuts have come on my hands but no worse than other times and I have no rashes or spots anywhere.
I'm thinking that its either another cycle round, in which case the amount of fibres is more than previously. Or is it the Immune Pulse doing its job?
With regards to food, the only thing I have done differently is that twelve days ago I ate a few blackberries with no problems. Five days ago I ate a few blueberries. Otherwise nothing different.
Initially I found it quite difficult emotionally,lots of tears. Its always difficult when symptoms return and of course I want to be finished with it. But I know that its a long battle and can't be hurried and I want to do the best that I can to dig in and keep doing everything I can to get well.
I have it hanging over me that my husband was willing for me to take everything for a year and I have some anxiety about whether there will be pressure put on me in September to stop the protocol. Prayers would be appreciated.
Any comments/suggestions would be welcome.
Hello Mary and Peter,
Peter, thank you for your encouragement and you are so welcome to come and visit me if you come to England!
Mary, I've just completed my first three weeks (five days on and two days off) on Immune Pulse and next week is a week off and then I start the next three weeks in the same way. During the first week I had a little rash on the back of one hand and saw a few fibres around it. Spraying with MMS helped the rash go away after a couple of days. Fibres on my face and hands seem random in the amounts each day, sometimes none and others just a few. There's not been a big increase over the past few weeks, just a continuing of on and off days. I also remember having some mild headaches but other than that I've not noticed anything else. Its been a busy period as my aunt who is 83 and lives in her own house but I am her main carer, fell and broke her replace hip a week and a half ago in the middle of the night. It meant loss of sleep that night and a busier time hospital visiting and doing her laundry and sorting things in her house. I've cut back on others things that I could, just concentrating on my work and things at home but despite the extra stress its been ok. I even managed to keep a long term commitment to take my mum (who is nearly 89) away last weekend in the midst of everything. I've been careful as much as possible to have some time resting each day. I'm not managing to meet up with friends as much and don't always make it to church, sometimes deciding its wiser to have a rest.
Yes gardening is such good therapy! But I now cover up a bit more, generally wearing long trousers if its not too hot and always wear barrier plastic gloves and then gardening gloves on top. And I'm not sure I will ever feel happy about bare feet in the garden again but you never know! I'm interested to see if all the essential oils that I have in my body lotion that I make up keep the flies off this summer.
Hiya Ruth! I was checking in to find out how you are doing with the Immune Pulse? Did you have any increase in symptoms? I was so happy to hear about your gardening and the rhubarb tart you tried. I could just imagine you outside gardening away. It is very therapeutic to garden, isn't it?! As long as we aren't getting bitten up by them bugs.
I am going to find my way someday to visit that beautiful countryside that your posts conger in my imagination. I can almost smell the fragrant aroma of something baking in the kitchen as I stroll through your garden!
Love you, Ruth!
Thank you so much, Ruth! I can't wait to give it a try.
Yes try spraying with MMS. It took me a while to find a little travel spray bottle but now if I have a rash, cut or sore I make up some and spray as often as I remember in the day, rub it into the skin and let it air dry.
I add about the same number of ounces of water as I've used of activated drops, so if I've used 4 and 4 of drops I add about 4 oz water.
I saw in one of your posts that you mentioned using MMS spray. I was hoping you could tell me the ratio of MMS drops to water that you use for the spray. I'd love to try the MMS spray rather than always relying on the Kleen Green spray as I have been doing for so long.
Thanks so much!
and thank you Mary for your post and for keeping in touch with us all here. I'll never forget - you were the first to respond to my first post here and I was so so grateful.
I'm in my 10th month now and symptoms are very much reduced most of the time. I can probably say I'm 90% better! I used to wonder how people worked that out but what I've done is think about how many fibres I would have seen in the beginning and then how many now. Some days I see none! Those are great days! Other days there are just two or three on my face/feet. The only time there was anything different to that was at the last full moon when there was a slight increase for two days. The other time was this week when I started the Immune Pulse and had a small area of rash and little cuts on the back of my hands and saw a few fibres there just on one day.
I haven't had any stinging for a month or two now or itchy crawly feelings. I'm expecting for things to start happening with the Immune Pulse and want it to as I want to get rid of what's left of the disease.
I've had a busy week or two, catering for visiting family. A couple of them tried my free from Rhubarb Bakewell Tart (I will put the recipe up on the thread) and thought it was good! I've also been doing some gardening (to make it tidy for visitors but also to reclaim some ground). An area of vegetable and fruit garden had been completely overgrown by weeds and brambles and last year I didn't have the energy or will to tackle it. The weather has been so good here the past two weeks I've been able to get out and bit by bit get rid of all the weeds and yesterday planted out a strawberry bed. So I haven't been resting as much as I might normally - I need to get back to afternoon naps.
I've also been sorting out another area in a storage room where there had been mold. I'd cleaned it all but wanted to get it redecorated and change the flooring which all got finished a couple of weeks ago.
I had a coffee last week - I haven't added anything to the diet before just keeping to all the same things but thought I would try just one coffee when I was out with a friend. It tasted very strong! I had it black with just a little milk. It was probably a bit of a shock to my body and it kept me quite alert for the rest of the day. It didn't cause any itches anywhere though. Afterwards I thought that it probably wasn't a good idea to try it the same week as I was starting Immune Pulse! I think I'll leave it a while before another coffee :)
so good to hear your voice on the recording from 5/7! You sound so sweet and kind! And, I'm glad to hear you are doing better! I, too, am a meat and eggs person, because I get weak and shaky feeling without enough protein like protein from meat. Even best is when I eat beef, I get much more energy, though it is always grass fed when I do. So, apparently even though I didn't eat a ton of veggies, I was still able to reverse the fungal component and stay alkaline enough.
I do like to put a fried egg with avocado mayo on a slice of toasted brown rice bread in the morning or some of the Pedersons grass fed, sugar free bacon. So, I try to eat raw almonds for the alkalinity and maybe some blueberries.
I agree that when trying to take the split dosing of MMS, I now have to be careful about not eating any foods within 2 hours before or after that don't have antioxidants in them. It was easier at bedtime to achieve this. But since I do a little grazing rather than just 3 larger meals, not eating for 4 hours between breakfast and lunch is harder. I guess I'd like to know what has too much antioxidants in it to eat, since many foods have antioxidants in them. Maybe my sun butter and nut thin crackers would be ok. But, veggies with hummus, I imagine, would not.
Take good care and God Bless!
Hello to everyone,
Its a few weeks since my last update and there's not much to report! No more big outbreaks of fibres, just occasional very tiny black dots that I see on my face or feet. Some days there are a few and other days none. At the moment there are a few little cuts on my hands that come and go in different places but heal up quickly with MMS spray and sulphur cream.
Its great having a quiet patch but I know things will still cycle round. Yesterday I had a moment of comparing working through the protocol to climbing a mountain. It felt like that before I started the protocol, that I needed to get my big boots on and start a tough climb. Yesterday I felt I could take a moment to catch my breath and turn round and look back at the view and see how far I've come. It made me cry. A mixture I think of the reality of it all, knowing its been tough, but also so grateful to God for the protocol and the help here and for the progress that I've made.
The thing about climbing a mountain is that when you look up you can't see how far it is to the summit and sometimes what you think is the top turns out not to be and there's a bit more climbing to do. Its the same for me with this that I can't predict how much further I have to go so I need to keep on with everything just the same and each day do everything I need to do to get there.
I've had a few times recently of feeling very sick, but not been sick, once feeling very ill and not able to move off the bed. It felt scary as I have a fear of being sick but after a while the thought came to me: things are dying off, things are dying off. I just kept repeating it in my head and it helped so much to reduce fear and feel positive about it and I started to relax and fell asleep soon after.
I know we all tackle this disease with different personal situations. I still have no support for this protocol from my husband which is hard but makes the community and support here so very valuable to me. I'm mentioning it because of others out there who may be in the same situation and wondering if they can do it and I'm here to say that with all the support and help that is here, yes you can.
A couple of days after my last post some big boil like spots broke out on my leg! So it wasn't quiet for long but I'm grateful for the times of less symptoms. Even though I knew symptoms would keep coming round I was still disappointed! I suppose its human nature that we want to be finished with the disease as quickly as possible. When symptoms go away for a bit there is the thought that maybe this is it. Anyway there is still a bit more mountain to climb and its hard that we never know how much further there is to go but we just have to keep on going. I'm grateful that with MMS spraying and sulphur cream the lumps and bumps went after a few days.
I've been getting into the sun when I can and one day last week had 30 minutes in full glorious sunshine,let it get to as much skin as possible. Thought I'd check my face when I came in and there were quite a lot of fibres there which again in some ways is disappointing but good that the sun brought them out.
However MMS baths even with 60 drops is not bringing anything out that I can see. There may be very small stuff emerging but not that I can see.
Now that I am getting into the routine of MMS in the morning as well I really like it better! Drinking just 7 drops each time is so much easier, not hard to drink at all. I have a gluten free oatcake before the mid morning pills and MMS hoping that it is ok. I was trying to think what would not have antioxidants in it.
At the moment I'm keeping to eating all the same things not wanting to do anything that will delay me getting better. Trying to keep on alkaline foods as much as possible and avoid adding anything acidic although I eat quite a bit of meat and eggs.
Love to you all,
Peter thank you so much for you post sharing about your life and being so encouraging. Yours is a wonderful story of health regained. Thank you for your honesty and for sharing your story with others here. Your reassurance to me is so very helpful and a real comfort.
I am working on being patient! Symptoms have quietened down over the past few weeks. I am changing pillow cases a lot less and fibres are getting teeny tiny and hard to spot except with a magnifying glass. No more of those sudden itches and then spotting a fibre. I've had a rash on the back of my neck buts its calming down now. So I'm expecting another round again in another few weeks!
I'm sticking to the diet strictly still. I sometimes look at things in the shop and wonder if I could cope with eating it now but then just want to keep it safe and not eat anything different yet. I do find it helpful though to eat things that I really like the taste of and change flavours around a bit as it really cheers me up! I'm eating almond crackers at the moment flavoured with pumpkin seeds, rosemary and sea salt. Thanks to Nan for her recipe.
Thanks also to Margo for the castor oil information. It has helped greatly on the neck rash.
I'm getting into the routine of twice daily MMS. I used to find it tricky out and about but I now have an MMS kit in a little zipped bag that goes into my handbag. Its got the two bottles and a collapsible cup in it so that I can make it up wherever I am.
I'm trying to work out a way to make scones. Does anyone have a recipe that works? So far they come out something like a rock cake rather than a scone, quite tasty flavoured with sage and onion but still not a scone.
Love to you all,
As I have come to expect, you continue to share very important and compelling experiences that can teach others. Your posts offer situations with questions that lead to deeper understanding. I would like to again thank you and to respond.
First, I am convinced the body intends for this disease to teach us about patience. My body patiently accepted years of abuse before it finally said "enough". That was when my co infections overwhelmed my immune system, and Morgellons arrived.
So, it stood to reason that recovery would also take patience and would take time. For anyone reading this, the proof that "patience and staying the course" brings remission lies in the fact that today, as I write this, I am symptom free. All that remains are brief periods of inflammation that are due to Lyme related factors.
There are very clear reasons why it has taken me 4 years to get all the way home. I am 62 years old, and I have lead a very "toxic" lifestyle. I smoked for 40 years. I went through years of alcohol abuse. My diet rarely included nutritious, living foods. Blood work has shown antibodies for serum Hepatitis and tuberculosis. I have had H-Pylori. I worked as a painter in my 20's where I was regularly exposed to Toluene and other toxic petroleum solvents like acetone. And there has always been high levels of stress during my career teaching and counseling.
"Overcoming these factors is nothing short of remarkable, and the primary reason why I strongly advocate for this protocol."
Some final thoughts. Like you, I had differing symptoms emerge through out my recovery. And, indeed, they are unsettling. But only until you come to understand them as an important aspect of deeper healing. And in that context, looking back, I now view them as necessary, and a good thing.
The disease will flux and will cycle. I too remember a time finding it harder to drink the MMS. But this happened at a point when I was feeling pretty normal again. So I saw this as a sign I was truly getting well, which I actually was. Like Mel, I now pulse MMS as a preventative measure.
Starting The Renaissance Whey will measurably help you. The rejuvenase enzyme allows your body to form polypeptide chains that actually have serious anti-microbial properties. I call it natures antibiotic.
God bless you, Ruth. Don't let new symptoms deceive you. They tell me you are really winning! Believe it,
and "Stay the Course!"
Hello to everyone,
I'm either late or early for the prayer meeting and can't work out the time difference, possibly as its the time of year that the clocks change. We'll be going forward an hour soon which changes it again. Anyway so sorry to miss it, thinking about Daisy and wish and pray for a wonderful wedding day for them.
As I was all set to stay up a bit later here's a bit of an update. I feel that I'm in a stage now where I have to keep myself looking ahead, eyes fixed on the goal and not looking in any other direction and that this is why Peter says that patience is the challenge for me now.
It can feel unsettling having a new type of symptom emerge or things happening in a new way as I would much rather that all the symptoms went, now! Some mornings I'm having to change my pillow case after one night due to a large amount of fibres left there and I've had a different looking type of raised patch on my lower leg. Some things come and go quite quickly. Others like an itchy patch on my neck are persistent. I know I have to keep on doing everything each day and be patient. I had a few days recently when I was finding it harder than usual drinking the MMS, not for any physical reason but more mentally. Is this the disease? Can it do that? Anyway I decided to view it as if its the disease fighting back because the MMS is making progress in killing it off which made me feel much better and the last few nights have been back to normal. It was the same feeling as with the food cravings, that something was attacking my mind to put me off track.
This week I tried the Renaissance Whey for the first time using almond milk and it tastes so wonderful! Thank you John for making it such a treat to drink. With all the herb teas I've been trying I've been drinking things that don't taste very good always. I'm on Cat's Claw tea at the moment and will keep changing every few weeks.
The MMS baths are up to 40 drops now and I still don't see much, just a few small fibres.
Thank you for the love and support here.
Hello to everyone,
Now into my six month and after having had quieter time of symptoms for a while things have been more active over the past few weeks. I've had an increase in the number and size of fibres coming from my face. My forearms have had scaly itchy rashes come and go over the past week and had a small lesion on my arm that was increasing in size. After reading some posts here I got some sulphur cream and also sprayed arms with MMS and Kleen Green. Happy to say the rashes are gone now and the lesion is healing.
A new symptom for me are white fuzzy balls that I find on my skin or see coming out of my skin on arms, face and feet.
I'm currently taking monolaurin and parabolish in addition to the protocol so lots of pills!
The diet is going ok and I'm sticking to eating mostly the same thing every day.
Good news about the cats! They were all declared well this week at their yearly check up and vaccination. The cat who had bare patches now has beautiful fur. I've no idea if they drink the MMS water but they get given it every day.
I'm not giving up hope, I'm trusting God, grateful for everyone here and pressing on.
Hello to everyone,
I'm in my 5th month now of the full protocol and taking my maintenance 14 drops of MMS which is going fine.
In order to monitor how my symptoms are regarding fibres, I've developed a habit of checking my feet and face every evening, mainly those because they are easy for me to see. I wear white socks now so that there is no possibility of me mistaking fibres from clothing as coming from me. I check after rubbing cream in. I can see a trend of less fibres and that they are smaller which is encouraging. Occasionally there are days when there is a bigger and larger amount. My hands have been clear of cuts/scratches for a couple of weeks but these come and go. I very rarely feel any sharp stings from fibres any more but occasionally an annoying itch in lower legs and sometimes then spot a fibre.
I don't experience any crawling now. I must have done initially as I took antihistamines to sleep in the early days before starting this treatment.
This week over a couple days for the first time I felt as if I was getting better, that I could really see a change in the amount and size of fibres and that there is a consistent decline. Its hard to explain, but emotionally I felt different. It only lasted a couple of days but it was good to feel it! I think so often we struggle with self doubt as to are we doing enough, are we missing something and having to battle through with faith to trust God.
Interestingly it was this same week that I also for the first time since starting to diet had a mental struggle over food! Because although I've struggled sometimes with the inconvenience of the diet I haven't had sugar or any other food cravings. I don't often feel hungry in the way I used to. But this particular evening I had a fierce craving for toast and butter that came from nowhere unlike anything before in this process. I take this as a positive! That the disease is feeling under threat and fighting back. Remembering past posts from others is a big help to recognise what may be happening.
I've started MMS baths at 20 drops two weeks ago and this weekend will go to 25 drops. Nothing to report from the baths as yet.
I'm increasing my range of herbal tea adding mint, cinnamon, clove, ginger. I've got some cat's claw to try. I'm adding raw garlic sprinkled over salad, hoping its not too antisocial a thing to do! I'm getting used to cooking with coconut oil to fry things and trying it out for baking. I still can't seem to eat it straight.
Thanks to everyone who post here. I love reading your posts and its so helpful to me.
Hello Debra and welcome here.
Thank you for posting as it helps so much to hear from others in the same situation.
I'm so sorry that you are having to deal with morgellons in your whole family and will pray for you all. There is a thread here called Children and Morgellons which will be full of advice on how to help and treat children.
When I first came to the site I read the FAQs to understand Mel's protocol. Then I gradually read through the forum pages making some notes as I went along. There are also the articles on diets which are a great help. Some of the conference calls focus on helping children and are very encouraging so will be helpful for you to listen to them when you can.
Its great that you have found this site now and I know that it will be a big support and help to you.
Please keep posting and let us know how you are getting on.
This is my 1st time writing on this site (or any site!).
Myself, my daughter, my son and my husband are all showing symptoms of this.
It started with my daughter at about 8 years old or so but I was unaware what it was until I had lesions erupt and looked closely at them. I had already researched skin rashes as my daughter had recurrent sores exacerbated by an allergy to mosquito bites which confused the symptoms initially.
I knew what morgellons was but I had never seen fibres until recently. I have seen black bits come out of my hands when I apply cream and white stuff coming out the soles of my feet after
showering. The girls in our family have it worse- not sure why?
the boys have mild symptoms that could so easily be missed.
I am very grateful to find this site as it is very difficult to discuss issues like these without sounding like a loony!! I have always approached life believing the things other people tell me are happening to them as who am I to challenge / judge another's experience but not everyone is like that.
As a medical person myself I have experienced first hand the conversations behind patients back in the staff handover room and the dismissal of ideas that don't "fit" the normal.
This disease seems to defy the laws of physics but although it is dreadful it does prove how "life" exists on many different planes in the universe. That we need to open our eyes and question everything.
I am just beginning my research into how to treat this which will be made much harder by my son being severely disabled and unable to take medicine or understand why he should not eat sweets.
I can already tell that this site is going to be a great source of information and support.
I pray to our Creator that each and every one of you posting can achieve healing and that the root cause of this awful disease can be exposed.
I also pray that medical professionals can stop fearing being laughed at by colleagues or losing their jobs if they admit that morgellons is real, and stop labeling people as mentally ill. I felt just awful reading about the lady on this site who was sectioned to a mental hospital. Reading that makes me reluctant to call this disease by its name too as I have a disabled child to care for and concerns that people may not think me capable.
Please pray for our disease that we may recover quickly and without the stigma that could come our way.
God bless and goodnight.
hello beautiful people,
OK what i have found is very helpful for my digestion (ginger with frozen lemon)
what i do is i freeze the lemon for 24 i use salad grater grate the lemon with skin i add it in my salad .i didn't like it now i love eat i eat everyday
i hope this help you have digestion issue
i have an appointment with one of the doctor which has got very good mogellons review i hope i will get help from him .
if no success i will start mels protocol
god bless all
Hello Ruth and Welcome,
Just wanted to thank you for these wonderful recipes. My personal favorite appears to be Lemon and Lemon, because I love everything lemon. Apple ran a close second.
They have been posted in two sections (Deserts and Sauces, Snacks and Treats) in the Articles and Diet section under Recipes.
Once again, thank you very much!!
God bless you all; Never ever give up Hope!
These are some English baking/pudding recipes I have been working on.
LEMON SURPRISE PUDDING
50g butter (softened)
2/3 cup xylitol
2 large lemons or 3 small
4 eggs (separated)
4 tbsp coconut flour
1 tsp baking powder
1 cup almond milk
Beat butter and xylitol togethether. Add lemon zest and juice and mix in followed by coconut flour. Then mix in egg yolks and almond milk. Whisk egg whites until stiff and fold into the mixture.
Pour into a baking dish and bake at 180 C for 30 minutes until golden brown on top.
There should be a light sponge on top with a lemon sauce at the bottom. If the sponge is too runny cook for longer.
LEMON CURD SLICE
3 oz unsalted butter
6 tsp stevia
6 oz ground almonds
3 oz coconut flour
4 ½ oz butter
4 ½ oz xylitol
the rind of two lemons
To make the lemon curd, whisk the juice, rind and stevia and eggs together in a heatproof bowl and add the unsalted butter cut into small pieces. Put the bowl over a pan of simmering water for 15 to 20 minutes stirring frequently until the mixture is thick.
Mix the ground almonds and coconut flour together and rub in the butter. Mix in the lemon rind and xylitol.
Grease a baking tray 10” x 7”. Put half the almond and coconut mix into the tray and press down evenly and firmly to make a smooth base. Tip the lemon curd on top of the base and spread evenly.
Scatter the remaining half of the flour mix onto the lemon curd so that it covers evenly and press down lightly.
Bake at 170 C for 20 minutes until golden brown. Leave until completely cool in tin before cutting into squares. It may benefit from time in the fridge to become totally firm. It will keep well in the fridge or freezer or for a few days at room temperature.
(For 2-3 portions)
1 large Bramley cooking apple or two smaller apples
2 oz ground almonds
1 oz coconut flour
1 ½ oz butter
1 ½ oz xylitol
1 tsp stevia
½ tsp ground cinnamon
Preheat oven to 180 C
Peel and chop apple into ½ inch chunks and put into saucepan with 5 tbsp water, stevia and cinnamon. Cook over low heat for 5 – 10 minutes until apples start to soften and fluff at edges. Take off heat. Taste and add more stevia if needed. Put apple into a small baking dish.
Mix the two flours and rub in butter by hand or in food processor. Add xylitol and mix in.
Tip on top off the apple and spread out.
Cook for 20 – 30 minutes until golden brown.
A big thank you to Mel who telephoned me in the UK from America this morning to help me and give me advice. I find Mel's care and kindness so amazing. Just knowing that help, support and advice is here and so freely given has been such a huge reassurance and comfort to me.
I went up to 17 drops last night but at 3 a.m took some vitamin C as the stomach cramps felt a lot worse and more than I felt I could take! So Mel has advised that I take 3 days break and go back to 14 drops as my maintenance dose.
Thank you Mary and Peter for posting with advice. So lovely to know I'm not on my own.
My weight is 120 1bs so hope that is a good number to get to for my size.
As you say Mary I can settle down now with a set number of drops which requires less thinking about!
I just want to tell you that I agree with Mary. I don't know your body weight, but the nausea, bloating, and other things you are experiencing do suggest you may be at your tolerance point with the MMS. So, I would also advise that you take 3 days off, but try to have a discussion with Mel.Then decide, how to proceed from there.
And yes, although uncomfortable and annoying, I would see this as a very good sign!
Strength and Love,
Hello Ruth and Mary,
Welcome as always
You should consider calling into Mel at one of this weekend's calls. Good idea!
God bless you both, never give up HOPE
Since you are still increasing your MMS drops and you are having this reaction, I would think this may be your big herx and that you should stop for 3 days and start back up at 13 drops. But, I'm deferring to the experts, which I'm sure will chime in. Or you should consider calling into Mel at one of this weekend's calls.
Thank you Lady T! I will look for a good cottage cheese with nothing added and flaxseed oil and give it a try.
Thank you for all your posts which I love reading :) and grateful for the information you give and encouragement.
I'm having another week of feeling a bit yucky, as we say here, with bloating, nausea, cramps and wind and no appetite. Is this a good sign? I'm up to 16 drops of MMS now.
Just wanted to chime in about cottage cheese -
Cottage cheese is a source of Sulfer protein and eating it with a tablespoon of Organic flaxseed oil is a satisfying snack or for me - became a small meal! A half cup (or sometimes a full bowl or just a few bites) of trader joes cottage cheese (hate most store brands of cottage cheese with guar gum and gunk, but TJs is great) and then drink tbs of trader joes flaxseed oil (kept Cold so it does not go rancid)
I found this potent pair from budwig protocol for folks with cancer:
"Dr Budwig discovered that when she combined Flaxseed oil, with its powerful healing nature of essential electron-rich unsaturated fats, and cottage cheese, which is rich in sulfur protein, the chemical reaction produced makes the oil water soluble and easily absorbed into the cell membrane."
Source: cancer tutor
Thank you Mary and so lovely to hear from you!
I would be grateful to hear from folks what their experience of the big herx was. I am nervous as I have a bit of a phobia about vomiting, silly I know. Good to hear that it wasn't too bad for you Mary.
Last week I had a few days of feeling sickly with no appetite. I'm wondering if that was a bigger die off happening. Its hard to know sometimes if its a bug our bodies are fighting off or if its the MMS killing stuff. I feel much better now thankfully with more energy again.
I love the Kleen Green and my house is gradually feeling so much cleaner! Not that I didn't ever clean before but I guess I didn't look too closely!
My weight has dropped a bit more over the past month so trying to reverse that. What do people think about cottage cheese? I'm reading things about alkaline diets that suggest it may be ok. Also hummus?
Love to you all,
PS Sorry Mel for dropping out of the call today. The internet connection here is poor and I sadly missed your last comment and then the connection went and I couldn't get back in. But thanks for your encouragement and advice and I will never curse your name no matter what comes! Thank you as always.
So glad to hear how well you're doing!
I remember Mel telling me the same about adding more water and being so happy not to have the burning feeling in my throat anymore that the more concentrated form caused.
Glad to hear how you were able to enjoy the holidays more, with less anxiety. Less anxiety is good for us.
Lastly, just wanted to say, don't worry about the herx because it was really not very difficult for me and others! It's exciting because you're on your maintenance dose of mms. And that's a happy thing because you don't have to try to remember how many drops you're up to this week and all.
I look forward to hearing when you do max out and what your maintenance dose will be.
Keep up the great work!
Much faith and strength,
Let me share my experience. I worked very hard on digestion during the first year of my recovery. As I came to understand the role that the microbiome (the bacterial colony of the gut)plays in immune health, I came to realize how important digestive enzymes, probiotics, and prebiotics are, and why they are an important part of the protocol.
My research allowed me to understand that people over the age of 60 (like me) are no longer able to produce enough enzymes. Since cooking meals kills the natural enzymes, I learned the value of eating raw versus cooked and to supplement to restore digestive integrity, especially if you eating lots of cooked foods.
I would suggest that you try drinking 10 to 12 ounces of water 10 minutes before eating. I would also consider adding fermented foods like Sour Kraut, Kim Che (fermented cabbage and cucumber), and raw kefir occasionally. It doesn't take much. These are prebiotics that will help grow the essential flora . It also helped when I added the Logos Magniflora 7 at my lunch time meal for additional probiotic support. I did this because it contains a different blending and that did really help.
Bottom line is that it took a few months to restore my microbiome. But I no longer need prescription Prilosec and Nexium for Gastro intestinal reflux disorder. Now, I digest my food again like I did when I was in my 20's. Hope this helps. Stay the course!
Thanks for your advice I have considered to start my protocol but I'm not in good financial situation right now .my girlfriend suffering from morgellons .she is in her early stage we are trying hard to start the protocol soon
Compromised digestion is a growing challenge for all regardless of whether they suffer from chronic illness, but especially so if they do. This is why so much of our protocol is aimed at improving absorption and assimilation of nutrients, and we spend so much time and energy encouraging people to reject processed foods and to eat a wholesome diet.
If you follow the protocol your digestion is bound to improve. Keep the faith Josef, we are all pulling for you!
Hello every body happy new year,
I'm just wondering if anyone in here can help?
I have very trouble digesting problem .
I eat lots of vegetables but still have problem
Thanks appreciate any advice you can give me
Happy New Year to everyone!
To update on my progress, I'm now up to 15 drops of MMS and drinking it in 16 oz water as advised by Mel as I had some stomach cramps. I didn't realise that we had to increase it by this much! No more stomach cramps though so thank you Mel! I'm wondering if I will be nearly at my maximum dose now and have to admit I'm a bit nervous about it.
Most of the time I feel fairly comfortable in my body, only a few of the big stings in the full moon week. There are still fibres appearing on my face and feet when I put cream on in the evening but they come out without pain and with just a little
itch if anything. They are getting smaller and sometimes I only see them with a magnifying glass.
Christmas and New Year was busy with family coming home but was a lot easier than last year when I was so worried I was giving everyone whatever I had! No one seems to have developed symptoms during the year which I'm very grateful for but still pray a lot about. I cooked things for others that I didn't eat it and it was fine. Bit by bit I'll try and work my diet more and more into what everyone else eats! I didn't feel deprived at all, even with all the chocolate around, and I loved chocolate. I think I looked at the journey ahead before I made the decision to start and knew it was tough and would be a big challenge for me.
It was reading through the forum that gave me the courage to do it, so thank you again for everyone that has written here. Your voices echo in my head and remind me to keep pressing on slow and steady and keep positive. And especially thank you to Mel and Peter for being here for us.
Christmas is on its way and I'm coming up to time last year (Boxing Day) when I first started with symptoms. Its been quite a year! But I am so grateful that a year later I am three months into the full protocol and feeling the benefits of it and also part of this wonderful community of people.
I'm now on 12 drops of MMS. I'm not sure how much to increase the amount of water but am taking it in 200ml now which I think is about 7 oz. My hands are still free of cuts which is great and the bruises are less. Fibres are still appearing on my face and lower legs and feet.
A week ago I was needed by my mum, as she was ill and couldn't get out of bed, to go and stay for a few days. I had to leave the house with no warning and with little time to think what to take with me. I survived on mainly nuts the first day and then when I did get the opportunity to go out and buy some food I was surprised to find it challenging again to walk past cake shops! It must have been something to do with coping with the stress of my mum being ill and not having all my normal food supplies around me. In the past in a situation like that I would just eat on the run and keep my energy levels up, not bothering too much about good nutrition! I managed to stick to the diet but lost weight again. It was a good experience for me to realise that in those unexpected life events there is an extra challenge in keeping the diet on track and not be surprised by it next time.
Love to you all,
I'm so grateful for your encouragement and advice. Its really been reading posts from everyone here that has given me the courage to start this journey and stick at it day by day. Also of course trusting that God has it all in His hands as I commit myself to Him each day.
Thank you for mentioning coconut flour. I was starting to feel uneasy about using too much brown rice flour so it was just the confirmation I needed!
Thank you for being here and all your support.
There is no "quit" in you. Your attitude is amazing! You are "the indomitable spirit of the British," and a voice for every warrior here.
Keep showing others that spirit. Keep showing them how to get the job done with an attitude of acceptance. I see great dignity and God's voice in you. What a blessing you are!
FYI...Your diet looks very well rounded and spot on. Try coconut flour in place of the brown rice flour in your recipe. In my experience, blood pressure lower (with spikes) is a very good sign that your bio terrain is restoring. Symptoms like the issues with your hands coming and going is OK, because as you reach double digit doses of MMS (10 to 20 drops) , you have greater die off. This is part of the detox process needed to reach remission.
I would urge you to wear a mask when cleaning mold and to be mindful to circulate air to remove airborne spores that mold throws off when disturbed. Stay the course. You are winning!
Hello to everyone and thank you so much to all of you for being a part of this community and of course especially thanks to Mel, Peter and John.
I am now on 10 drops of MMS and still increasing one drop each week. Fibres are now generally smaller but occasionally there is a day when there are more and they are larger. My hands are free of cuts and scratches today but they still come and go. My blood pressure is at a healthier level. It was never consistently high and needing medication but used to spike up sometimes when I was working but if I check it now even when I've been under pressure it is remarkably low! Its very encouraging to me as an indication of my body becoming healthier.
My diet is keeping going well and I keep the freezer stocked with almond cookies and almond drop scones so that I always have a snack available. I still make egg custards with coconut cream most weeks. I eat far more than I used to and never feel hungry in the way that I did sometimes before I became ill and was trying to keep my weight down. I carry almonds with a few pecans as a treat with me when I'm out and about in case there's nowhere that I can get the right food.
I'm trying a chicory drink with almond milk as my morning 'coffee' with my snack before my mid morning pills. Not quite sure about it yet! Dandelion root drink in the shops I've seen so far has sugar added but I'll keep looking.
The dessert yesterday for mum's Friday teatime treat was an attempt at Lemon Surprise Pudding. Sadly it lacked the surprise as there should have been a lemon sauce under the lemon sponge and it was all sponge with a fudgy lemon bit at the bottom. Mum pronounced it delicious though so I will try adjusting the ingredients which are lemons, butter, eggs, brown rice flour, tapioca flour, xylitol, stevia and baking powder.
I was shocked a couple of weeks ago to find black mould under and at the back of the toilet cisterns. So have been cleaning thoroughly to get rid of it all. I was shocked not to have realised it was there and am trying to be more aware of where else it could be.
If I think about how far I've still got to go it can be challenging so I try to concentrate on celebrating how far I've come and taking steady breaths if I start to feel overwhelmed.
Its been about a month since I last posted an update and I'm now on 8 drops of MMS and doing fine with it. I still have fibres but they are smaller and there are less of them. I had about a week with skin clear of scratches or cuts and it was great - I could do a salt scrub in the shower again! I am resting as much as I can on days when I get very tired. It can be hard when my main working hours are late afternoon into the evening but I try to get a rest in the afternoons.
There were a few days when I battled through to remain positive and keep believing that God is going to help me through to full recovery. However I believe He showed me this site and therefore I'm in the right place. Declaring it out loud helps me; singing praise and worship songs helps me. I greatly appreciate the prayer meetings when I can join in. I use skype and our internet connection is very limited, but even if I only get a short time before the connection goes its great. Its 11.30 p.m. here so I'm staying up a bit late on a Sunday for it! Its great if I can get an afternoon nap in though.
Each time I make a right choice with my diet and take the supplements I feel I've taken another step in the right direction and I know that if I just keep taking another step after another step I'll eventually get there!
My social life is narrowing down at the moment as I don't have the time or the energy. It can be hard coping with the diet out and about but at one recent event I took my box of salad while others ate a Chinese takeaway and it was fine.
I've bought some measuring cups, hooray! I can now follow recipes with more confidence. I've discovered that rhubarb is alkalising as well as having very low sugar content. So I can still make a pudding when my mum comes for tea every week (I have always been a prolific pudding and dessert maker). I'm a bit limited by the diet restrictions but am working hard on researching and experimenting. We have Bramley cooking apples in the UK which are also very low sugar. My crumble topping made with brown rice and and tapioca flour, butter and xylitol worked out well.
I think I've finally settled on a laundry routine for my front loader washer. I use a normal detergent and add some borax to it that I order online and also add Dettol laundry cleanser which goes in the fabric softener drawer. I use the soak function on the washer as well.
Love to you all,
Thank you John for your advice, i will look into this at the earliest convenience with my doctor who is treating me in London.
I went almost 12 weeks ago to my last visit and they took several bloods for testing different types, from what i believe parasite testing? It is very long and painful trying to explain to the doctors, he has heard and the condition Morgellons and even stated it on my medical notes there.
But to just advise me to take an anti anxiety pill every day, and his understudy asking why i have changed my diet, as it shouldn't matter, its like burying your head in the sand explaining or talking to them, It is ignorance at its lower form , they know what causes different symptoms in the skin, education is paramount to combat worldwide disease, natural all the way.
Quick update gas, and toilets back to normal, a blip that lasted 4 days, and also i had 5 roast potatoes on Sunday and no reaction again, i hope i can have organic turkey, organic veg and a few roast potatoes this christmas, then on a sorrowful note, we are enduring disease, the Paris population are grieving with a horrendous loss of life, we are lucky in that respect and grateful for our healing.God bless to them and my deepest sympathies.
Have you been tested for a GI tract infection called c. difficile?
Hello Shawn and welcome as always,
It sounds from this last post that you may be approaching your MMS maximum. The symptoms you describe are similar to my experience. Let me suggest you send me an email with a day and time this week and I shall give you a call.
God bless, Never give up HOPE!
Thanks Shawn. I like the presence of oils. A select few have proven to be generally very useful, especially when blended. I think the value of oils is often overlooked.
Mel recently reminded us of this when he brought forth the anti microbial properties of Eucalyptus oil.
Tea Tree, clove, and sandalwood are also worth considering.
Hi to everyone,
Just a quick update, i seem to be back on track, the talc seems to help a lot.
I have a new symptom(s) severe stomach pain along with horrendous smelling gas, very potent and strong, embarrassing and also makes me go to the toilet immediately. its not good at all, i just wondered if there was something i could take to eliminate this.
Maybe more probiotics or yogurt? Also i have heard green bananas are good? mainly for Candida, thoughts please??
Peter the answer to the talc is the following:
Bamford talc with: A blend of essential oils
All organically grown ingredients,
Google and take a look, see what you think, very very expensive £17 for 100g
I hope everyone continues to rid this disease and is making great progress
Good to read your post. I like that you have pointed out for people that it is important to keep the skin dry. I agree. I would like to know more about the talcum powder. Always remember that understanding product ingredients and processing are so important. Please let us know more. That would be helpful.
I used a glycerin and zinc oxide product on my legs before I started the protocol. It did help in the short term, but I think further research into Zinc Oxide is needed. Treating internally should be your primary focus.
Burning, redness, blotching, and pimpling of the skin are to be expected. See these as an inflammation response and the way that the skin pushes out biofilm. Don’t let it alarm you. It is a necessary part of your detoxification. Just look for it to reverse out more quickly each time it occurs. It’s what Mel intends for us to understand when he says that it will get worse before it gets better.
Stick with those avocados my friend. You are winning!
Very happy to see your scalp is improving. I appreciate your response post because it is very important for others to know that you are finding answers here. It also shows that you have a good heart!
Stay patient and your scalp will fully restore. You have the right formula because you are seeing improvement. Plan to treat this way for 6 months and be consistent and you will succeed. Keep us informed!
Thanks for you kind help
I'm using sulphur soap and neem and tea tree oil soap my scalp is improved 30% .
I got lots of white sandy stuff coming out from my scalp
Will keep updating God bless
Thank you for your advice Mary, Nan and Ruth, it is truly truly appreciated.
Mary, I agree on all counts that kleen green will not help Candida of which i think this is, drying areas out and keeping it dry (no sweating) does help enormously as Candida albicans thrives on moisture. To help this i have used good old Talcum powder, although i have just ordered organic, yes organic talc, quite costly but i will give it a go.
Ruth, I agree Zinc oxide cream DOES work as i have used it on my face at night, every night and i have never had an issue, i obtained this particular cream in my very first days of getting this, because i googled my symptoms and it came up with Demodex mites, that alone freaked me out, i had pimples on my face and around my eye, so i went to this site , i don't know whether i am allowed to mention it here, but it has worked for me, although this cream should ONLY be used on the face, they offer many products for this particular problem, BUT i must stress this does NOT kill , they (parasites) etc hate Zinc oxide, this however might reduce cycles,
My current condition has greatly improved so much so i have bought some gluten free cheese and onion bread from this amazing place, like a nursery and railway carriage cafe that sells eating disorder foods, the selection is massive, i just have a slice per day with a new dairy free spread KOKO made with coconut oil, oddly it looks, smells and tastes like butter !! i will not go too mad as i have found if something agrees with me, like a gluten free chilli tortilla , i tried a few, it was a ok for a few days, then i was so hungry one day i had a good half bag then my symptoms started to re-appear, i tried a few roast potatoes my mother in law made and they were absolutely divine, i stuck to 3 and that was it, no symptoms, i may try again in a month and a few for Christmas lunch if my condition allows.
I am eating more avocados , 2 per day and organic coconut shreds, also plenty of almonds just to keep up the alkaline levels.Also i am on my third dosing of Immune pulse.
I hope each and everyone is fighting this at every angle to eliminate this, its brilliant to share our information as it may help others, i realise some things may help for one person but not the other, if we keep sharing we ALL one day will have this surrendered and victory is ours !!
Mel i hope you are ok, looking at your lovely photos brings a smile.
God bless x
I am so sorry you are feeling poorly. I wanted to write sooner, but we have had some terrible rain here so getting things done took longer this weekend than normal. I do hope my input sparks a solution for you.
A couple things come to mind regarding your rash and itching:
B12 Deficiency - Itching can be one of the symptoms if not consuming enough B12. Do some reading on B12 and maybe get of bottle of quality B12 supplement. I take one a day and it has really helped by itching, leg cramps and brain fog. I ordered B12 from Logos along with the protocol items. As time goes by and I feel my health is better than I will review to see if I need to continue.
Acid – PH level - One of the symptoms of Candida is hives/ rashes. If you are acidity then you attract pathogens. Do the Candida spit test and get PH strips and see what your PH level is during the day. Best results are to do it right when you get up in the morning before drinking or eating anything. You will have to review your diet very closely. May need to cut back on things then bring them back in the diet once PH level is managed. There are several websites and Youtube shows on Candida to help learn diet and limits. Be aware that some sites allow more fruits and things we cannot eat. Remember 75% or 85% of our diet should be plants/ veggies. Lately, I make a lot of veggie type soups on the weekend and freeze them. I have them with salads during the week. Veggie smoothies work too. Drink lots of water with lemon and/ or add Grapefruit seed oil to the water. Become a good cook with veggies since this is a life time change. The more I read the more I realize we need to understand the right diet for OUR bodies to regain and maintain long term health.
MMS – Do you get relief from your itching and does the rash reduce in the evening when you take your MMS? If not, then you may need to review your dosage. You may need to increase or may need to shift schedule until your rash/itching reduces? You may want to send email to Mel to set up time to have a discussion with him about MMS so you have knowledge to make good decision or if you can manage call on Sunday during the prayer meeting since Mel, John B. and Peter always have good input.
Keep a log – keep a log detail log when the issue changes (when the itching comes and goes & when the rash reduces or increase) then you may be able to zero in what you are doing external and internal that may cause the issue. This includes stress from traffic to regular every day things. Looking to see if there is a pattern, that may cause the problem then you can shift to see if improvement occurs. For me I use to eat oatmeal and too much caused an increase in discomfort. I would eat one serving, which was about 1 /4 to 1/2 cup, with an avocado or egg, but then one week, the avocados where not good at the groceries and I was tired of eggs, so I started eating 1 cup of oat meal to fill me up. About a month later I was feeling badly. I started my log and noticed mid morning was when I was not feeling well then I zeroed in on what I was doing in the early morning.
My first thought for you- do you put your laundry in bags and throwing them in the wash machine without touching? Also, are you using MMS in your laundry? If you sweat (I thought you mentioned you worked outside) then may be getting pores on your clothes that may cause it to spread if not cleaned well. You may need to do laundry several times a week to keep this managed and do light loads in high water so the water/MMS can get thru the clothes. Are you waiting for the laundry to cool from dryer before touching them or spray hands with KG? See below on Hot / Cold.
Hot/ Cold – I had a conversation with Mel and he reminded me that heat makes this illness thrive and cold reduces the issues. He joked when he was ill he wished he could live in a freezer then right before his last breath if they would pull him out then, he thought, that would resolve this illness. Mel is funny and it seems pretty risky activity to me, but I got the visual and realized keeping the body temp down is important. My understanding is you work outside so this may be hard for you to do. May be stay out of the sun or run to air conditioning place at lunch or during breaks. Use cold compresses on wrist and neck to keep body temp down. May be drinking cold water to help body temp. May be use cold water & lemon on paper towel and wipe the problem areas throughout the day to keep cool; only wipe once so do not spread. Look at your log and see what can be shifted. I live in Texas and it can be like a sauna outside do to the high humidity so it can be very HOT. As I was feeling better I was outside all the time to walking, bike riding, etc, but after conversation with Mel, I returned to the inside and only get out when cool and low humidity. I turned up the Air conditioner to be pretty chilly inside. I take cool/ luck warm showers. When bathing, I do sections of my body with cold water when rinsing the soap off so anything on me will go down the drain rather than travel down my complete body. I eat warm / not hot soup and tea.
I would play around with hot and cold until I could fix the issue with internally changes. For example, I would stand in the bath tub with hot water about inch deep with either a little KG or Epson salt. I think one could use MMS too. I would stand there for 5 / 10 minutes, adding a little more hot water, and things would go into the water. This helped the rash on my arm and itching on arm and head. Also, I use to put my shorts in the dryer and put them on and the pain would stop on my head. I then used lint brush all over clothes and body, spray with vinegar / water then put coconut or mineral oil with tea tree on my body. One side note in the morning, I used a Scotch-Brite 3M lint brush all over my body right when I get out of bed. I would do every inch of my body. Do not forget the bottom of the feet and head. I figured the MMS only last so long so if there is anything there I try to remove it. I do not see anything on the lint brush, but I still do not feel like my old self so until I do I keep removing the layers.
Bragg Apple Cider (Raw) Vinegar – I have not done enough reading on consuming vinegar, but others state it is good thing so may want to investigate. For external use, since I have sensitive skin I mix in spray bottle 1 to 4 mixture, where vinegar is 1 and water is 4 times more than the vinegar, and use it on my problem areas or all over. Others have indicated they use 50/50 vinegar & water mix so depends on what your body & rash can tolerate. I use to use Epsom salt and water too with a spray bottle with a very fine mist. Also, I apply mineral oil and tea tree mixture on my skin too. I know there is controversy about mineral oil because it is not nature, but still find it makes me feel better. Also, if there is anything, the oil seems to pull stuff from the skin or trap it, and then I can take tissue and wipe or remove with lint brush. This oil may make things active and I take this as a good sign that they do not like it so I am winning the battle. I would keep applying more until this would stop along with lint brush or tissue and or I would spray vinegar or Kleen Green and or I would do this in evening after taking my MMS if having too much activity. I do put coconut oil on my body sometimes to make a change, but my skin is pretty dry so need to apply more often. I use Kleen Green/ water mixture too, than switch out with Vinegar/water. I think we need to make shifts (small shifts) in what we use internal and external to change our body’s environment so our opponent does not have time to acclimate.
Reach out to Mel / John B. – If you are going crazy then send email to Mel and or John B directly and maybe they can ask you specific questions and give you some ideas. Provide them details from your log.
Be still – When I am agitated then I take some time to just take some deep breaths and be still; quiet the mind helps quiet the body. Anxiety increases the discomfort so I have learned to be very still and relax. This works well with my mindset when people are annoying too….lol. Takes some practice to do this, but it has really helps. I find a specific prayer for guidance to an answer helps as well.
Remember it is the SUM of the parts.
So sorry that your rash has been spreading and can understand your frustration with it.
One thing I did read about was cream with a high percentage of zinc oxide in (20 -40%). In the UK I've not been able to find one but haven't looked online. The other thing I've noticed is that when I'm squeezing a lemon to put in water if it goes onto my hands (which are covered in cuts, scratches and rashes at the moment) it stings very badly for a few seconds, but seems to help them to be less inflamed and heal up quicker. So now I make a point of rubbing a bit of lemon juice in each time.
Hoping you can find something which helps you.
Hi Shawn, so sorry to hear you are still suffering with that skin malady. Kleen green doesn't help. Did mms baths help? I sometimes feel skin rash, contact dermatitis type rash or individual itchy bump like I get now and then from this MD needs to be dried out. I will use rubbing alcohol and alternately, the beige colored safeguard soap that is good for poison oak rash. But I think it is probably the darn candida flaring up which is actually an internal issue. So, addressing the outside bumps helps temporarily but key is to get it internally. So maybe trying the immune pulse will help get rid of it?
Hi to everyone!
I am pleased to see so many healing from this,
I have a question as i am at my wits end and don't really know what to do?
Since July i have had itchy spots on my tummy, around my belly button, these have now spread around my back, shoulders, neck area and tops of my arms, they randomly appear, can be very very itchy,some of them feel like they have a crust on them, they can vary from 2mm - 5mm.
I have tried all oils, they seem to aggrevate them, also the doctor prescribed a steroid cream for Candida albicans, it subsides the itchy feeling temporarily but never disappears, i would be grateful for any advice, oh i use Kleen Green also.
Its now been nearly two months for me on the protocol and I'm on 4 drops of MMS which I am doing well drinking. During the first week on the extension kit supplements I had some bloating/wind/cramp stomach issues for just a couple of days. Although I still see fibres, the amount of them has decreased. I sometimes get bits of pink glitter from my feet! I have nothing pink in the house so know its coming from my skin. I've had an increase in the amount of cuts and scratches on my hands and see it as a good sign.
I'm keeping up with the diet well and have experimented with black bean and quinoa patties that have garlic, onion, leeks and spice in them. They go well with eggs for breakfast. I made a big batch and froze them so its made breakfast time quicker and easier for me. I've used the recipe section here to make the almond cookies, shortbread and muffins and freeze these as well. Its a big help to me to feel that I don't have to be deprived of things that taste sweet. I can eat a small spoonful of brown rice with a meal without any reaction but am being very cautious. For lunch I eat large platefuls of green leaves with cucumber, peppers and avocado or else soup that I make in big amounts and freeze. My favourite is chicken curry soup with coconut milk. I'm putting a small amount of red lentils in that and seem to be ok with it. I've lost 14 1b since starting the diet and now weigh 122 1bs (height 66 inches) and want to try not to lose any more. Any advice would be welcome.
My three cats are looking very sleek after having been given a dry food with higher nutritional content! I also have an extra supplement powder that I add to their food. I started adding MMS, one drop, to their water this week. We have a pond that they sometimes drink from but hopefully if we get a freeze this winter that will get them to drink more of my water! They've been on regular treatment with worm tablets and Stronghold (selamectin, which is the same as Revolution I think). Just one of them has a small area of fur which is patchy so hoping this will clear up.
For the past couple of weeks when I stop to pray or think I'm finding that I cry a lot. I think its my mind and emotions catching up with what's happened and working it through as it was very traumatic to me in the first few months. So I see it as a healing experience emotionally that I will work through.
When I think about the website I am so grateful to Mel and John and how God has used such difficult times in their lives to help me and so many others.
I'm trusting God that He is working for good through this situation in my life. I find it hard to put down in words everything that's in my heart and express it. I just thank God that He led me here and thank God for you all and pray for everyone here.
Thanks so much for your advice and encouragement about MMS. Squeezing nostrils has definitely helped! I have to remember to let go to swallow to help my ears but by then its ok!
Hi Josef -
After reading your blog about the MMS and your hesitation of taking it, I thought to myself that if I chose to not take the MMS I don't think that I would be healed. I believe that this is a critical part of the entire protocol. The MMS will help to eradicate the bad bacteria from your body. It is approved as a Water Purification Solution so it is OK for you to have it and use it. After you start to use this you will notice a big difference in how you feel. It may take a few weeks but it will definitely make a difference in your journey back to good health.
For the scalp, I believe that everyone's symptoms can be a little different. In my case I had mites and other critters that were in my home so I had major problems with my entire body but especially in my scalp. After I would shower in the evening I would spray KIeen Green on my entire scalp and then put a tight shower cap over to cover my hair. This was very effective in that it stopped the itching and the helped in cutting down the attacks that I would get during the night. I also believe that the Kleen Green also gets through the pores of the skin to kill some of the bacteria inside the scalp.
Hi Ruth -
When everyone who has Morgellons starts out with the MMS it can be a little unsettling. When you are at the beginning with the smaller doses it is easy, but when you start getting to the larger doses it makes you think about the best way to drink this stuff. I found that if I kept thinking about it and putting it off it was more difficult, so I did what the Nike commercial used to say: "Just Do It"! Don't give it much thought and just drink it down. I also would suggest squeezing your nostrils so you can avoid the smell of the MMS and you will not taste it as it does down your throat. Works every time, and the more you take it the easier it gets.
Don't let this disease get the best of you. Just keep fighting and as you go down your path to recovery you find that it becomes easier.
Thank you again to everyone here for your continuing support and love! I am so grateful to you all.
My journey is progressing slowly and steadily! I am now up to 2 drops MMS and keeping up with supplements and diet.
Thanks to Jimmy for the advice about the pill boxes which are such a big help and mean I can prepare the whole month's pills at one session.
Symptoms are fibres, mainly in the feet and face, but maybe that's where I notice them. Some scratches and little cuts. Itching and crawling comes and goes. I'm working on trying to identify a cycle with it.
For those of you who haven't started the MMS yet I want to reassure you. I was worried whether I would make mistakes with the number of drops coming out, but they are easy to control. I try to think positively when I'm drinking it - that its helping me get to get better. I have a big man hankie that I liberally anoint with lavender essential oil and breathe in a big breath through my nose just before I drink the MMS to stop me smelling it. It probably calms me down as well!
My most challenging time is usually first thing in the morning when I wake up. Its the realisation of another day with morgellons and the fight ahead to get well and can be a bit of a heart sink moment. I've found it helpful to "call to mind" every morning that God's love and faithfulness are new every morning "and therefore I have hope" and I can trust Him. Lamentations 3:19-24.
Shawn, so pleased to hear that you are doing well.
Love to you all
thanks Ruth and peter for great support
i wish i would have found this lovely people and this website long ego.
what I am thinking is the amount of stuff coming off from my scalp i don't think shampoos or tea tree oil or other stuffs will help i have used tea tree oil before didn't get help they may makes bit improvement for short time after will be same again. tea tree oil soap sulfur soap neem shampoo never tried them i will have to try them . you are right the dog shampoo will not help its been 3 days now using it. its driving me mad my scalp burning itchy crawling ,i may stop using it soon .
i have spent lots of money for wrong treatment like (seborrheic dermatitis psoriasis topical eczema and others )didn't get good result
but still don't want to give up I am hoping one day i will be free like everybody can eat everything and do the think cant do know
good bless all of you
Hello. I was so moved by your story that I have to try and help you. I was very sick three years ago and now I am doing very well. So I want you to believe that it is possible to get better.
The truth is that the dog shampoo and alfalfa tablets probably won't help. Try this. For your scalp, see if you can find a simple sulfur and tea tree oil soap. Bar soaps are OK. Lather your scalp with the tea tree oil soap first. Let it sit on your scalp for 3 to 5 minutes. Rinse and then lather with the sulfur soap. Let it sit on your scalp also for 3 to 5 minutes. Lastly, if you can get your hands on some kleen green enzymes, wet your scalp with them and let them dry on their own. If not, then rub in some coconut mixed with neem oil. Or a neem oil shampoo will work too. Repeat this three step process each day. If you shower with the same soaps using the same 3 step process, over time, your skin will do better.
Get on a good probiotic. Logos essential flora is a very high quality one with numerous strains. Eat a variety of green and red vegetables together with garlic and drink lots of purified or distilled water. Give your body additional B-12 and vitamin D. If you can afford it, the Logos supplements taken as laid out in Mel’s protocol will give you the complete needed nutritional support.
Please consider the MMS. There are many that are seeing improvement with taking it, and I feel it is instrumental to getting better as it kills infection. I will be praying for you. Don’t give up!
Strength and Love,
If it would help you to have someone to talk things through with on the telephone, Mel has my number and you can email him to ask for it.
Hoping that things improve for you soon,
Not really most of the doctors told Me I have seborrheic dermatitis and only treatment is anti fungal like nizoral shampoo atarax anti allergy tablets or scalp application one doctor said I may have psoriasis and he gave me treatment after few month went to see him again told him didn't work he ask me to stop the treatment if is not working
I will not give up I have spent lots of money !!
Will update again
Thanks Shawn and Ruth I have ordered dog shampoo which they say %100 chemicals free also I have ordered alfalfa tablets which I never tried there is lot of good review about alfalfa . My girl friend doesn't let me to use mms she is scared after she find out it's banned from Canada
(The issue I have got is to eat what to not eat last few weeks mostly eating eggs brown rice and vegetables)
I will see how I get on with the dog shampoo
I will update you guys
I am so sorry that you have had such a painful condition for so many years and that the treatments given by doctors haven't helped you.
Because I have only recently discovered I have morgellons I don't have much experience of how symptoms may develop. I am sure that others here who know more will respond to your questions.
For myself I knew that it was morgellons when I saw tiny black fibres emerging from my skin.
I do hope that you soon find the answers that you are looking for.
God bless, Ruth
my case is very different than you all.
let me start from childhood when i was age 2 i had trouble scalp condition which i lost lost of hair on top of my scalp its like moon and stars around my scalp i never had good scalp since my childhood but it wasn't very bad until age 16 my hair loss start with flaky oily burning itchy i didn't know what to do i went to see my local clinic doctor there told me that i have fungus he gave me some tablets .shampoo and liquid to try it worked for only 2 weeks.
now i am 40 i have been see 10s of doctors i have tried all different shampoos i have tried what ever i used everything i have read on line i had blood test i had allergy test i had 2 biopsy.nothing helped recently i test myself with red vine it shows that i have morgellons i been using clove, black walnuts, woodworm, oil of oregano, apple cider vinegar probio7 supplement i used baking soda Epsom slat with with vinegar recently i found my belly is not good all the time feel like vomiting. i stopped using everything for now.
im so helpless if anyone here can help me????
Just wanted to say I'm still here but going through a rough patch. Thought I was gonna lose my job due to sickness but it looks like it's gonna be ok :-)
I love the way this thread has grown it feels less lonely in the uk.
I'm not on the ball at the moment with my protocol but the last 6 months I have been doing it have given a definite improvement. I've been off the ball or a month now and can feel symptoms coming back.
Don't worry though I've got a plan & I'll be back on the diet & protocol from Monday coming.
3 quick things:
1) I hate custom charges please can you pray that God removes them from my life
2) I love green juices; taste rank but makes me feel so healthy
3) Mel sorry I've missed you calls its been a bit crayzee navigating the work situation
Love to all
Lovely to hear from you but sorry that things have been so difficult for you. Its a positive step though that you've made the decision to start the protocol even if it takes time to get it all.
It took me a while to sort out getting everything from the protocol and Mel advised me to work on changing my diet while I was waiting to be able to order things. Its a low carbohydrate alkaline diet so nothing with sugar including fruit and no wheat or starchy veg like potatoes and no processed food. Some people are ok with lentils/beans/brown rice but others cut them out as well.
I live in the North West and if you would like to be in touch by telephone you can email Mel for my number.
You're not alone any more and there is hope.
Praying for you,
sorry for the delay but I've been going through a rough patch & haven't been up to going online.
Thanks so much for your response & ideas - I'm very grateful for them & it;s so nice to have contact with someone who understands finally - that means so much to me. \
I am taking your advice re starting the protocol, but as money is tight (entire savings blown on various "cures"), so it may take a while to get everything. A sticky situation.
I can feel myself deteriorating pretty rapidly now. Glad to hear that you are on your way to reclaiming your body & I truly hope that you do. No-one should have to live like this.
I will stay in touch - are you allowed to say where in the UK you are? Very best of luck with it & hope to speak to you soon.
So happy to have found this site.
Like you I spent time looking at different websites to try to find out what morgellons is and how to get rid of it.
When I first came to this site I started by reading Mel's story, then Mel's Protocol and then the FAQs.
Reading these will help you to decide whether Mel's Protocol is right for you and will give you information about how to use the MMS. As you read you will learn that this is one part of the protocol but in order to become well all parts of the protocol will need to be followed.
All the information you need to order the products are included in the description of the protocol. The supplements and MMS are from US and can be ordered online and delivered without difficulty to the UK.
Keep reading through the rest of this site as it is full of information to help you.
i been searching for morgellons treatment for a while.
i have read a lot about mms treatment
first of all i live in London, here i cant get mms?
Do i need to buy from us or canada ?
second i dont even know if it really work and how to use it and how long need to be used
more infomations welcome
I'm so pleased that you've found this site and saw the UK thread. I too felt the need for support from a forum and after praying about it came straight to this site, saw a welcome to the UK a d knew it was the right place for me. And yes there's hope here with wonderful stories of how people have become well, first Mel and then many others.
I started reading the protocol pages and FAQs and then the forum threads starting at the end page and working forwards. I made notes as I read. I also listened to the conference calls while I was doing jobs or if I was too tired to read. They are wonderful, often made me cry hearing peoples' voices, prayers being prayed.
As I read I started to believe that I could follow the protocol and face the challenges required.
I'd encourage you to order the supplements if you feel its the right thing for you. I waited until I'd read everything which took me about a month and now think I could have started sooner.
Also looking at the diet articles and threads will give you direction on how to change your diet.
Keep us posted with how you are getting on. I'm still very new to the protocol, still in my first month of supplements but been on the diet for about six weeks. Already feeling healthier, and slimmer!
Hello, I am new here and felt I had to post after stumbling across this wonderful site and seeing the UK thread. Obviously, I have a great deal of reading to do first, but finding you has already given me back something that has been missing from my life for far too long - hope. I have known that I have Morgellons for 5 years and have felt so alone every day. I won't bore you with my story, but I will say that like many I've read about, my family think I'm crazy, my GP is no help and the one time I posted in a forum (elsewhere), I got accused of being a troll, which scared me off and was so upsetting. Having others to share experiences and support would be amazing and I'm praying that I've finally found acceptance. I'm starting to read/learn right after this and realise it's a big task, so really for now I just wanted to say hi. So happy to have found you. Thanks for listening, it means so much. Best wishes to all.
I also live in England and discovered I have morgellons in January this year. Two months ago I decided to follow Mel's protocol and have been taking the supplements for three weeks. Like you I read a lot of stories here of how people have become well again.
If you read through the protocol and the protocol products there are links to order them. I have ordered the Logos supplements and they have been delivered to me without difficulty. Likewise the MMS from the link. I have ordered Sovereign Silver through Amazon UK and also iherb. MSM is sold in health shops or you can get it again from Amazon UK.
While you are waiting to get the supplements you can start working more on your diet to move to a low carbohydrate and alkaline diet. Again there are lots of articles and threads on diet that can be found using the search engine.
Its great knowing we are not alone with this and there is hope that we can be well again. I'm so grateful that Mel has shared his knowledge and experience on this site to help others.
Praying for you Josef,
Welcome ! Here you will find guidance on how to relieve your symptoms and ultimately cure yourself from this awful disease.
Please read read and read some more, and over again to digest this wealth of information that the community shares.
If you are suffering i would not hesitate to get on Mel's protocol from Logos Nutritional's and there is a link on the site to order the MMS, this is what i and so many others do, a bottle last an awful long time.I order my collodial silver from Amazon in the UK.
It is great you are eliminating sugar from your nutrition, i would drastically change your diet, no dairy, wheat, bread, potatoes etc, eat plenty of vegetables and salads, and i have organic chickens, salmon, etc, all diet suggestions are on this site even on a budget,NO fruit whatsoever in the early days of this dietary change, i have lemons and limes with foods. I hope this helps a little, you are not alone and we are all here to help, advise each other , Any other questions please do not hesitate to ask.
Ruth i hope you are progressing well and i am so pleased your family are supporting you in this fight to get well,
Jimmy i hope you are also getting to grips with this and winning and your symptoms have drastically reduced.
I am personally getting over my last episode, the odd symptom especially when i overheat as i work outside in construction but i feel i am nearly there, the fear has completely gone, i am up for the fight and i WILL WIN , just received another 3 months supply of protocol along with a £147 customs charge, this includes the NEW Immune pulse which Logos have launched, together we can ALL beat it and destroy it.
Prayers for each and everyone suffering from this.
Hi every body thanks for all your comment and sharing stories
I been suffering from itchy scalp for years I had blood test biopsy allergy test.
I have tried all the shampoos in the pharmacy but still not good.
Recently found that I have morgellons disease.
I off from sugar more than one month it's been bit better I'm taking clove oil tablets oregano oil and apple cide.
Just wondering where to buy MMS,I live in London in here is not easy to get it, need proscription/
please let me know if you have information thanks
Its now two weeks since I started the Logos Support Kit and I started taking the Sovereign Silver a week ago. There's acceptance now at home for me to take all the parts of the protocol which is a big help. Shari, you were right! I was getting desperate at the thought of not being able to go ahead with things. It certainly got me praying.
So I will start the Extension Kit when I've completed the first month of the Support Kit and also add in the MSM. Am I right to think that I start the MMS at the same time?
I've been trying some of the recipes with coconut flour and converting cups to ounces. I think that 1/4 cup of flour is 1 oz whereas a 1/4 cup of butter is 2oz. Does anyone think that's right/wrong?
Tonight I've had a go at cooking a baked egg custard:
200mls almond milk
2 tbs stevia
almond or vanilla flavouring
Heat, but don't boil milk. Whisk eggs with stevia and flavouring. Whisk in heated milk then pour into dish through sieve. Put dish into a bigger dish filled with hot water and bake in oven 170 for 30 mins or until set.
As far as symptoms go for me its all still the same, black fibres mainly from feet and arms, sometimes with an itch/sting, sometimes without. One day recently was more itchy, particularly face with fibres and very itchy nose. I took to the bath in the evening with epsom salts which was great at calming it all down.
I am sleeping very well! I have to watch myself to get to bed on time though.
Shawn, so pleased to hear that the rash is clearing. How are things with you now?
Off to do some hoovering ...
What a beautiful thread this has become! I applaud you all.
Hi to everyone,
Just an update, i have been extremely busy with my business in construction 6-7 days per week, tiredness does take its toll but energy is pretty great.
My rash on my tummy as per my last post and lasted around 8 weeks has finally nearly gone, i tried the Manuka honey 20+ from New Zealand on my tummy every night, it must contain enzymes that eradicate the symptoms?i have had a few itches and a couple of small red spots on my left foot.Diet is still strict, hope everyone is making great strides on the recovery road.Ruth and Jimmy i hope you continue to make good progress, Nan, Nichole, Mary, Ruth and Peter thank you for your advice and support, it means so much to me and sound advice for others.
I am glad to see you posting here. It will be healing for you at times to talk/write about what's going on with you. For now, continue to learn everything you can from these pages/calls and those who have come before! You can msg me or JimJim at anytime as well in Whatsapp.
I always remember our first RULE - which is DO NO HARM.
I believe your husband will come around. Who knows? God may use you to show him things or teach him something (about what Dr.s think they know) through your example.
Keep the faith as you have been and NEVER GIVE UP HOPE! God bless and I look forward to getting to know you.
Hi to everyone,
My first delivery of logos supplements arrived and I was able to start them yesterday, the 1st September. I had a cupboard space ready for them and a written out timetable for the day with the times half an hour later than on the website as it fits in better with my work hours.
Thank you Mel for ringing me, for your help and advice and getting me started on the diet straight away. That was five weeks ago and I feel so much better already. I see fibres and specks, mainly in my arms and feet but its only occasionally that I have days that are crawly and itchy.
I used to eat chocolate every day, loved baking cakes and puddings and eating them. Now each day is a new day for me to make good choices and I see each good choice as another step I'm taking towards getting better.
One thing that has helped me with giving up chocolate, chocolate cake and biscuits is to imagine myself eating it and at the same time imagine seeing a symptom of the illness on my skin as I know that the sugar in chocolate would be feeding the disease. It just helps put me right off eating the wrong thing!
The other thing that helped me is a quote from a book by Billy Graham. It was something his wife used to say about the changes that happen in life and coping emotionally with them. She would say, "that was then, and this is now". Its different but its ok.
When I started reading the forum, a few months ago, starting back at page 27 I did wonder if I would be able to do everything that is required. The wonderful thing about reading all your posts is that as I read I started to believe that I can do it. I took notes and have grown to love you all so much and am so grateful for the time you have all taken to record your progress over weeks, months and years.
Also thank you for the conference calls. As others have said it is very comforting to hear peoples' voices and hear jokes and laughing.
I will keep re-reading and re-listening and use the wonderful search engine which has already helped answer things I've been unsure of.
I'm not getting support at home yet regarding taking the protocol and this has caused me some stressful and tense times but I know this is the right place for me so I'm pressing on with things calmly and gently, slow and steady. Also through reading I realise that everyone has different challenges alongside the disease that are stressful and demanding.
People in the UK: this protocol is for you too. I wasted several months mistakenly thinking that it would not be possible for me to be a part of this process living in the UK.
Thank you Shawn and Jimmy for your help. How are things now with you Shawn?
Love to all
Hi Shawn ...
This might not be the best most natural way, but for me the spots that felt like splinters under my skin. I would Soak a washcloth in just straight alcohol and suffocate the clusters of infection, fungi or whatever.
I didn't really have money for a lot of different things so alcohol was what helped me with a lot of that. I personally did much better showering often in the beginning, even using saunas to help with my skin sweat detoxing, using a back scrubbing brush in the shower over the whole body helped a lot to , stimulated and cleaned my skin at the same time.. I took MMs or Epsom salt baths fairly regularly, selson blue, or anti fungal shower gel and shampoos.
I worked very internal as well as external, my skin issues were so severe In the beginning, I've been on the protocol and diet a few years and can say I have NO skin issues, no appearance of rash or at this time anywhere on my body , and no painful lesions like I once did, they have all have cleared but it did take time, and persistence. I will say the smell of alcohol is pretty horrible but that's what I would do myself , it worked well for me ..
Oh and coconut oil following my shower never lotions ..
I don't think I personally would put honey on any lesion or rash just because I see how the M seems to feed on sugars in my case anyway.. I would be very hesitant to put sugar on my body .. I rather put alcohol or essential oils, or sweat and shower and get a good scrub on itchy spots. I sometimes put a little hydrocortisone but that's just me.
Prayers that you feel better very soon! Keep up the good work!
Diet is so important in your healing not sure where you are in that but eat good, I do low carb it works best for me, good lifestyle habits repeated daily ..
Sending you lots of good energy and well wishes!!!
I would suggest you do search on rash, sarna, or wheatgrass. Deborah B did nice post 8/ 11 under rashes please help.
I found drinking 1 gallon a water a day helps my rash and itching. 2 glasses morning good for organs, 1 glass 30 min prior to each meal good for digestion, 1 glass before bed keeps leg cramps away. I drink the remaining through out the day. When I do not drink enough then the rash seems to show up on my cheeks, head and wrist along with discomfort. Lint brush and Coconut oil helps too. Also, review your diet if you have added anything recently. I added blueberries and beans into my diet. I had to take them out again since did not feel well. Suggest cool /luke warm baths sine Hot water tough on skin and not so good with this illness. I have reduced to one bath a day to give my skin a break. I enjoy my evening bath, but going to think what Peter has shared as well. I have been consuming grapefruit seed extract in my water couple times a day too. Adding lots of garlic too. I put clove or tumeric in my tea and cayenne on my eggs and in water with lemon, but those items you listed sound like they would hurt on my rash.
Take Care and be careful.
Morgellons is a disease that seems to always be about making corrections, no? These corrections often center on something we learn. For example, look at bathing. Did you know that our skin produces and uses beneficial bacteria just like our gut does? Should we be washing it away each day before giving it time to do something beneficial? Also, since fungus and mold thrive on moisture, is immersing the skin in hot water each day the right approach? What about the numerous toxic chemicals that we know are in tap water? How is the skin affected by washing it with these each day?
So, I am not persuaded that it is the right approach for you to shower twice daily. I look at bathing differently than I used to. I shower every other day, and I make it brief. In between shower days, I alternate between sponge bathing with Kleen Green and MMS, both of which are mixed with filtered water. I take one MMS bath per week and an occasional Kleen Green bath. My skin actually does better with less bathing. Go figure?
I would suggest you try to ignore the pimples on your chest. I remember something about the chest that causes symptoms to respond better when left alone. I do agree with you that sweating can sometimes aggravate symptoms. Rubbing may actually spread the fungal sludge to the surrounding skin, so try “dabbing” it lightly with alcohol or hydrogen peroxide and then just try to keep it dry. Remember that Tea Tree oil is an astringent, so it is going to open up your pores. You might be better served with just using the Eucalyptus oil to dry the skin. .
Lastly, in my opinion, the ginger, turmeric, ground cloves, cayenne pepper, and cumin mixture would serve you better internally, by simply eating them with food. Nail polish remover is extremely toxic, so you should definitely avoid it completely. I have no experience with Manuka honey.
Unfortunately, Shawn, persistent organic pollutants remain ever present in our environment. No one can escape this truth. I am further convinced that water and food toxicity continue to increase each day, and I believe they are responsible for many of the chronic issues that continue for some people. This is likely a part of the infection that continues in my right forearm. So do not lose faith in the progress of your recovery. Just continue to make corrections. Hope this is helpful, my friend. Stay the course!
Good evening to all,
I have not posted for a while due to severe symptoms that i cannot shift and i am a bit lost to be honest.
My latest symptoms are still with my tummy and between my pectorals running up to my the top of my shoulders. This symptom flared up during a very very warm humid day in the small creases of my tummy skin, itchy rash that has spread, i have tried tea tree, eucalyptus oil , this i found aggravated the symptoms, i spray with kleen green after the 2 showers i have a day, just more red itchy spots show themselves each day,
I was due to see a specialist at royal barts hospital last Friday and they have now put "unknown" on my forms to my g.p as before they stated Morgellons, i insisted they carry out more blood test, they are testing for staph, m.r.s.a and a couple of others with the exception of Lyme as he stated i do not have Lyme with the test i had 21 months ago.
He also prescribed an anti itch cream and thats it, just have to wait and see the results for the blood tests, my next appointment is 3 months with another 11 hour round trip.
On a different note i spoke to a lady who sells Kleen Green and she stated other customers who have bought this have also stated they are trying "Manuka 20+ honey" which is £40 a pot here to spread over the spots at night for 5 nights and the spots should disappear , i am trying this on a patch of my tummy , this will be the second night, also she stated bizarrely a sufferer used a dab of clear nail varnish on the spot to suffocate the area and hence the spot would disappear, i haven't tried this!! the other method was a mix of:
1 x teaspoon of ginger
1 x tsp of turmeric
1 x tsp of ground cloves
1 x tsp of cayenne pepper
1 x tsp of cumin
and 1 x large tsp of honey, mix with boiling water and take 2 x tsp of the mix 2 x per day after meals, then leave the rest in the fridge, after 4 days make another fresh batch, i am trying this on day 1 as i probably don't add enough spices to my meals anyway,
These itchy red spots, are they mite entries to the skin, candida yeast or fungal spores, love to know other methods or suggestions that are helpful with these symptoms,
My partner asked me what exactly does it feel like on my tummy, the best thing i can think of is wood splinters under my skin or glass splinters, very uncomfortable, and restless.
Jimmy thank you for your update, and i hope you are nicely back on track, you can do it !!
Ruth, lovely to talk to you and hopefully your Logos will arrive very soon , in the meantime diet truly is the key to get started.
Both of you welcome to keep in touch,
Mel " who's in your window" photos are brilliant and bring a ray of light.
Kindest regards to each and everyone of you. God bless
Hi to everyone,
I'd like to introduce myself as I am just starting to find out about Mel's protocol and bit by bit reading through the website.
Thank you Mel for your call today, so helpful, and I will work through reading and processing the information.
I live in the UK and work as a piano teacher from my home in school term times, so now is a holiday, hooray! I'm married with three adult children. I have cats that do not come into the house.
I started with symptoms on 26th December 2014 on a small area of my arm with extremely severe itching. I thought I must have been bitten by something and took antihistamines and put bite cream on. Because it was in the Christmas holiday period with a house full of guests to feed and look after I hoped it would just go away. I then developed itchy spots on my other arm. I thought I might have scabies and was very stressed and worried that I had passed this on to elderly relatives who had visited. I went to see a doctor who didn't know what it was but suggested I try a scabies treatment. Of course by this stage I started cleaning seriously and also spent hours reading on line to know how to tackle it. It was when I spoke to a doctor friend for advice about the scabies and mentioned seeing small black things on my skin that I realised from his reaction that it wasn't scabies. So back to more reading for hours, so stressful and scary, mainly that I was infecting the rest of my family.
I've not had any lesions, just small fibres and specks. I get days when I feel crawly and itchy and I still get itchy spots and patches but not all the time.
If anyone feels able to offer me any help, support or advice please ask Mel for my contact details.
Hi Mary & Ruth,
Mary a very in-depth forum reply describing your symptoms, i am pleased they have subsided and you are feeling great again.
This or these symptoms on my tummy and between my pectorals are slightly worse and have tried absolutely everything, i do not scratch the itching. Mel kindly rang me about this particular condition and it could well be a co infection, this is yet to be confirmed. I will try Eucalyptus oil on it as i have ordered it, hope this helps, otherwise i will continue my diet, protocol etc and god will assist me in this healing stage, i prey !!
Ruth please do not hesitate to contact me and any questions feel free, do not despair as we are all here for each other .
God Bless to each and everyone
Thanks for your advice and I am hoping to contact Shawn for info on how he orders from the UK.
I have some anxiety about how my husband will respond to the financial outlay. I'm currently taking quite a few things but not really knowing what I'm doing so he's used to a cupboard full of bottles! But I would be grateful for your prayers about this that God will give me wisdom how to tackle it and make a way for me to get the treatment that I need to get well. Its not that we can't afford it but having his backing and support for it.
Thank you for your advice about the conference calls and I think that is where I concentrate my time next.
Thanks so much for your replies. I know I'm not alone, that God's with me, but to have replies from yourself and Shawn is so reassuring and makes me cry but obviously in a good way.
Thank you for your reply. Are the blotches and spots getting any better?
Thank you for your offer of getting in touch by email and I will ask Mel for your email address. I will be grateful for advice about ordering the items from the UK as well as general advice.
I think your red splotches might be deeper levels of the pathogens being kicked out of your body. I had this around my eyes and then on my neck a couple weeks ago. Red, itchy blotches all over my neck. Red, itchy, scaly skin under my eyes. But, they did go away slowly over a week.
At the time, I was wondering if it was something I ate, but it only went in those two places. Usually a allergic reaction will set off symptoms all over the body. So, I decided to view it as healing, I prayed a good deal about it, and now I'm feeling great once again. Actually, I can say I'm feeling the best I have in a year. The neck and eyes have been a place of illness for me historically before I ever formally got MD. So, I think that this is where they started in my body, or whatever the precursor is to this strange condition.
I did put some Kleen Green on my neck, but that seemed to aggravate it. But, maybe it helped to get rid of it faster? I was just about to take an MMS bath for it, when it started getting better. But the crease in my neck seemed to be worse than the rest of the spots so the sweat does irritate this or attract this?
As far as my eyes, it has happened twice that my eyes start getting watery for no apparent reason and as the tears leak from the corners of my eyes, it makes the skin sore and itchy and then red and scaly. When this first happened, it affected my eye lids and this second recent time it affected the skin below my eyes.
It was so weird that the tears would seem to start this skin reaction, that I think that MD is bothering my eyes and that toxins or dead organisms may actually be being excreted through the tears at these times. And, then, when these tears touch the skin around the eye, it causes a reaction in that skin which then becomes scaly, red and itchy. No lotion or oil (I did put on coconut oil) would sooth it or soften the scaly feeling.
All just conjecture, hypothesis on my part....I don't know anything for sure. But, thought you might feel better knowing someone else had these symptoms too and that they did go away.
Warmth and Blessings,
Very cool that your husband is a psychiatrist and saw the fibers come out of your skin. It is so helpful to have a spouse that believes that this is a real condition. You'll get his full support. I'm hoping he doesn't have it either or get it at all. Maybe he will someday help to dispel the belief that this is a delusional disorder.
I didn't have lesions either, just the same stuff you have and lots of crawling feelings in/on my skin.
I definitely didn't wait to read the whole forum before I started the protocol. That forum takes weeks to read through. I don't think that is necessary. There is the FAQ's and the Mel's Protocol page and the Articles and Diet section for finding info on a low glycemic, anti-candida type diet. So, that's what I did, I started eating right and ordered the protocol asap. As soon as the supplements, silver, and MMS arrived, I started them. But, of course, as you may read in one of my first posts, I made a mistake and started the extension support supplements at the same time instead of waiting a month to start those. I didn't read Mel's Protocol section clearly and got confused. Everything was confusing at first. But, Mel caught that mistake during a phone call and I stopped and restarted those properly a few weeks later with my one drop of MMS. I would read the forum a little bit at at time as I could but listened to most of the conference calls as it was easier for me to listen than to read and it had a calming effect on me.
The supplements are from Logos Nutritionals in Georgia and I'm sure they ship to you. Mel will answer all those questions for you. And, you've got Shawn over there as well. As far as the Sovereign Silver, all our local health food markets carry that product, so maybe yours do as well.
So, don't hesitate, get those supplements started as they and the eventual MMS will destroy/eliminate the pathogens whose population has gotten out of control and is no longer within normal limits and will build up your body's immune system once again.
Hi Ruth and welcome,
I live in the U.K and have had severe symptoms of this disease since August 2013, although i believe i had this in my system many years prior to this.
I have taken the full protocol since December 2013, eaten a very clean diet, my symptoms have resided so much and a lot more energy, as i need it in construction. Too date i am not going to skirt around it but my symptoms for some reason have flared up for the last two weeks, and if anyone can also give me advice, i have itchy red spots and blotches around my belly button and up to and in between my pectorals, they will not go away and itch so badly, i seem to of got them bending down to do my work and in between my two folds of my tummy, maybe where i sweat as it was very humid, and as i said they will not disappear ??Any suggestions please? Ruth having said the above i have come a long long way since 2013, if you need any advice please do not hesitate to contact Mel for my email or my number, we as a community can beat this wretched disease.
God Bless to you all
Thank you for replying! Yes I do feel overwhelmed by the amount of information but also know I need to stick to one protocol. Over the past seven months I have been trying on my own praying and asking God for help to know what to do and take but felt out of my depth.
Yes I've started to make notes now so I can try to draw information together.
I want to start the protocol but am I right to read everything first?
I've not had lesions, just fibres and specks though less now than at the beginning.
The great thing about reading through is that it is focussing me again on cleaning, washing, diet and hopefully I can get into a good routine over the summer as I teach in term time so have less time then. Although since all this I am now constantly clearing out and decluttering.
Are you well now? I look forward to reading your posts as I catch up on the forum.
Thanks so much for making contact. The only person I have spoken to about this is my husband ( a retired psychiatrist). But as a doctor he has a certain way of thinking about things. Fortunately in the first few weeks of this he did see something emerging from my skin which we looked at under a child's microscope and he saw it was a bundle of fibres so he understands that there is something there!
Thank you again for your kindness,
I am also starting reading from the first forum page so will eventually meet in the middle! Thank you to the person who suggested taking notes. I now have a notebook to record things as I go.
If there is anyone from the UK to share their experiences I would be grateful. Have you tried help from doctors here? Do you order the protocol from the US?
Sorry if these things are answered in the forum.
Hi Ruth! I, too, welcome you, warmly! I'm glad you found Mel's place here. Like you, the forum was and remains invaluable for me on this healing journey. I needed to feel connected to others going through the same situation and that interaction completely dispels the feeling of loneliness. That feeling of being scared and alone was so awful until I found Mel's place. It really never came back again since then, which is now a year ago.
I know it's a lot of information. Try not to get overwhelmed. I took some notes in a little notebook and noted the date and name of the thread so I could find it again if needed. Having very little time, being a little A.D.D., and in the beginning my anxiety being high and concentration being low, reading was more difficult for me and I found that the conference calls were really helpful with good information. Also hearing everyone's voices made it more real that I wasn't alone and calmed me down to hear healthy sounding people, with good attitudes and quite often, even joking together. I was completely blown away thinking, my gosh, how can they have such good attitudes with this condition? But, very soon, it was intoxicating and it spread into me. I felt their hope. I heard their improvements. I heard about their total recovery. It was very uplifting. And, the protocol started working and I began to feel better. The hope and confidence grew inside me. Together with the help of our Heavenly Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit, I found much comfort and peace in the forum and conference calls.
So, I'm looking forward to hearing from you as often as you can write. I personally found it really helped me to participate in the forum, too, as have others, so I do recommend it. I hope you are starting the protocol and will soon be saying hello to much better health and eventually will realize a full recovery. This is a real cure.
Thank you for the welcome! I live in the UK. I started with symptoms 7 months ago and have been looking at websites, trying different things but felt quite lonely and felt I need to start reading a forum regularly to hear how others are tackling it. Thank you for this website - its an answer to prayer. I have started reading the forum, from page 27 as and when I can. Am now about to start page 24 and am trying to be patient and get hold of all the information.
Thank you Mel!
Hello UK and Europe,
We started this thread about three months ago because of an influx of new people from this area.
I had been contacted by three new women within days and made an overture to ask two young recovering gentleman to try and help them as much as possible. The men agreed to help and the ladies had not responded until twelve days ago!
Now I know for a fact that both gentleman have made contact. I would like to see more exchange between you all as a sign to others in the UK and Europe that there is HOPE!!!
THANKS BOYS FOR HELPING!!
Please ladies as you get well, share your progress, to bring hope to others.
God bless, never give up HOPE!
I want to send out joyous greetings to each of you good people in the UK who have posted here. We have known for some time now that Morgellons disease is present on every continent. So, it stands to reason that we can gain much from you folks sharing your experiences with us here.
I want to extend a special hello to Shawn. We have communicated in the past by e-mail, so it is especially good to hear from you and to know you are still in the fight.
There is still so much to learn and so much to better understand in these particular co-infections and their persistent nature. Whether we are hearing from folks in the UK, or folks in Australia or Russia, the sharing of information is what is becoming so powerful. Please keep posting through this thread to keep it alive. I treasure you for your contributions to this community! May God bless you.
In His Love,
Hi Shawn, sounds possibly like you did have a big system wide reaction to the bug or whatever that got in you. Like an allergic reaction actually. But, your system kicked it out fast. So, whatever it was, sounds like it's long gone. Hang in there and good to hear from you! Maybe that big herx type reaction is going to be the beginning of the last chapter in your healing. I will pray on it!
I'm Jimmy & on month two of the protocol. It's really helped with my symptoms & given me hope that things can be normal again. Mel has my details if you wanna get in touch.
Good luck xxxx
Hi to everyone fighting this, some of you may already know me, i am from the u.k and have been on the full protocol for 17 months, it has been and i am not going to lie it still rears its ugly head ! Only two weeks ago i suffered a terrible bout of flu, this lasted around a week, then came the "rash from hell" over my whole body, and i mean totally covered, it looked like sunburn and was intensely itchy. this however subsided after around 4 days, no new spots or rash but as i work outside in construction and it has been very warm here in the u.k i got bitten on my arm and leg on consecutive days, hard very very itchy lumps. Today this is subsiding considerably, i feel my immune system is kicking in and relieving me of my symptoms far far sooner than in my self diagnosis of this disease.
The message from the above is pure and simple, take the protocol, totally strict on your diet and home environment , i know this consumes energy and time but believe me it is worth it, i NEVER ever want to go back to where i was 18 months ago!! , the only thing i am lacking is having enough sleep of which i am addressing.
Please if anyone wants to contact me for any advice feel free to ask Mel for my details, we are here together, to help, to advise and ultimately cure. Lets share our journey and help each other !!
God bless and kindest regards
Welcome as always!
Over three years ago we started a thread called "HELLO DOWN UNDER" and today it is still active. It helped those so far away to develop a network among themselves which proved to be invaluable to them.
Today because of the growing amount of people in the UK and Europe I thought it would be helpful for you all to start to network with one another. I ask those who would be willing to start communicating with others to post here!
The comfort knowing you are not alone is priceless. Relationships developed among people are what our website is about. They are beneficial to both parties, and some have become good friends.
This is your opportunity to interact and help each other through these difficult times. I will be glad to answer any questions you may have and help expedite communication.
God bless you all; Never ever give up Hope!