| | Kathyonmv
5/16/2010
1:44:08 AM
| Hi Gina and all I noticed that you were wondering what to do to help your cats. While searching the web I found www.cedarcidestore.com They have a product made from the cedar tree that is non-toxic called 'Best Yet'. Now instead of using Frontline Plus on my kitties I mist them with BestYet and myself, bed, rooms, car. 'Sister' knows that it kills ear mites and lets me spray her ears. They have a very informative website. Their products are expensive but aren't they all?! I've been using Bert's 'Morgone' a gel with Sulfer in it. I use it head to toe and don't have any creepy crawlies when I go to sleep at night. No wonder we're fuzzy brained. Four hour sleep a night will do that! I'm also on the Logos protocol plus taking Vitamin D and MSM Sulfur, going for walks, eating an alkaline diet and staying positive! Things are improving. Wonderful to have so many supportive friends on this website. I'm thankful for each and every one! | mel
5/11/2010
10:01:07 AM
| Hiya Gina H,
Welcome again;
Since you have posted in two threads, you will find additional information for you in clean your car or a room of biting, crawling, stinging!
You do not need to start a new thread, but stay in just one so you can find the responses easily.
God bless, never give up Hope!
Mel | GinaH
5/10/2010
11:39:25 AM
| Thanks John and Mel for your helpful comments! I missed them as hadn`t opened `New Disscussion`topic. Dah. Interesting on the inability of anything to melt the fibers. As some morgellon sufferers report improvement with far infrared use, if buying at $125 it might be an option when feeling desperate to speed things along.So much trial and error.
Yes, I originally thought hydrogen peroxide IV treatments too expensive myself, but when I considered the outlay of money for supplements month after month with little change and the greater expense of not being able to work for me, there was little left but to at least do a trial, even if it meant borrowing $1000 to $1500 for a series. In my view, any risks don`t outweigh the risk of continuing this lifestyle limitation and not being able to work. An individual choice. Even taking Indole 3C to help eliminate diseased cells caused me much headache but I still take it off and on with less adverse reaction now. I alway hope it's killing them off or drivng them out! I`m on treatment 4 of a second H2O2 round after a 4 month break, this after a refund of 60% of the cost of 1st round from claiming it as medical expense on my income tax return. This week I`ve seen less tiny fibers coming from my head than ever before the hardest place for me to see improvement. No idea why MMS didn`t show improvement in my case, perhaps the method of entry is that much stronger via bloodstream with H2O2.Finding a doctor that will give Vitamin C or H2O2 treatments and list supplements on their letterhead for income tax purposes, is easier done via alternative clinics that treat cancer patients - if no preventive medical doctor in your area . Combined with all the supplements, the cycling of detox on-going for the 3 years, antiparasitic herbs and meds, this addition has shown the best results for me thus far. I`m sure it`s in combination with immune enhancements but hope one day - soon - to report back here with ``none``. My silver just arrived today - more hope.Good luck my fellow travellers and may all our journeys soon take a happier turn.
| John B
5/4/2010
12:08:12 PM
| Before I attempt to answer your questions, I have one of my own:
My understanding is that the fibers being isolated in Morgellons patients have been subjected to extremely high temperatures and they have suffered no damage, so I don't see how they are going to be magically "melted away" by far infrared radation.
If you can't melt them in a lab, how are you going to melt them in the body?
I have seen IV peroxide and IV Vitamin C therapy used successfully in hepatitis C patients over the years when their viral load was out of control and their immune system could not keep up with the demand.
All of these forms of IV therapy, including heavy metal chelation can be quite helpful when extreme measures are needed, but they carry their own set of risks (read the disclosure they make you sign)... and of course a hefty price tag.
However, everything is relative... I would much rather do IV chelation therapy than have open heart bipass surgery. Thankfully, oral chelation products are available that do work (although admittedly slower).
Hope this info helps.
Blessings,
John | mel
5/3/2010
6:15:39 PM
| Hiya Gina H,
Welcome as always.
Adding Vitamin D is one of the things deemed necessary to restore my health as a result of the Great Plains lab testing. It is an essential nutrient for organ and glandular function.
Far infrared heat therapy has proven to be an effective strategy for promoting detoxification pathways and reducing the toxic burden that is stored in the body fat. However, the idea that everyone must pay exorbitant prices for the technology needed is a convenient argument for the source making the exclusive claim.
Detoxification is very important, and for those who can afford far infrared therapy, by all means use it, but don't expect for it to cure you.
As far as vacuuming, I do it every single day. As far as cleaning, there are many pages of information on this site (use the search feature).
As far as cats, try putting in pets instead. I did today and it brought up many posts.
I am sure that John will have some thoughts to share on the subjects I did not address... he has much more knowledge than I in those areas.
God Bless, Never give up Hope,
Mel | mel
5/3/2010
5:24:42 PM
| Hiya Gina (and Children),
Not to sound like a broken record, but I promise if you came to love Molecula Silver, one day you will come to love MMS too!
God Bless, Never Give up Hope,
Mel | GinaH
5/2/2010
2:18:54 PM
| Wow what an informative site! You are a marvel Mel, to so freely offered your journey through this site. And hello to everyone including Gina with the 2 kids! great to meet you. I'm sure your cure is very near if not quite yet. Also Pamela,thanks for the site on differences between Molecula and NutraSilver site. My order has not yet arrived, but I'm very keen after Gina's recent info too.
I left the Morgellon Research site early-on as it seemed to hold little hope then, with focus on the drama of pictures. I remember thinking 'those poor buggers should just shoot themselves'..little did I know! Eventually I accepted I had it - how many conditions cause red and blue strands to come out and fishing line? Having samples from myself tested at a local university's microbiology lab came up with 2 names. Within morgellon research info, I recognized the acremonium label, but not novosphingobium, although it ended my denial anyway. Later I read of the agrobacterium connection, with its fluorescent dye that accounts, apparently, for the colored strands. About 1 yr ago I found a preventive medical doctor who had enough blood tests done to see I had a very low vitamin D level, leaving me open to infection, bone & muscle pain and brain confusion. Vitamin D is not a standard test when blood analysis is done. This doctor doesn't work with Morgellons or parasites as such, but to bring the body back to normal physiology. He said studies are showing some people have a genetic predisposition to not being able to convert sunlight at some point in their lives, in particular those with colon or breast cancer in their family. So it's not about how much sun you get in those cases. In males it shows up as kidney/bladder challenges. I now suggest everyone ask their Vit D level be checked if they attend a doctor's office for blood analysis. I hadn't realized what a large impact it has on so many functions within the body, over and above 'bone'.
Far Infrared: I considered infrared but was unclear about it being good or bad. So my question today is do you think there is a difference in Dr. Staninger's infared versus other infrared? I can't see how one far infrared can be that different from another but know little on this other than the type of heat explained to utilize our own energy. If anyone can have a look at www.jdsorientalhealthsuppy.com and provide your take on their lamp, I'd appreciate it. Judgement not the best yet, for sure. Have been largely in isolation for 3 years, other than an 'anti-parasite practitioner' who saved my sanity more than a few times, so really am grateful for the array of info here and your contact.
From Aunt M's and John's comments about the plastic just under our skin that needs to be melted somehow to let our body rid itself of it, I take it then, that infrared will be a very major part of total clearing. So grateful to have found this info!! I thought the lamp might be better than the pad, but read of your success even with a pad. I am much better, but not completely better - where we all want to be, so maybe the infrared is the next step. Most of the plastic-like fibers that come from me are maybe to 1 inch and way less than previously, but once had one at least a 10-inche long one appear inside my sox . Of course, inspection of everything you put on still happens, from inside and outside of sox & all clothing and it wasn't in the sox that morning. It certainly confirms I have the plastic in me.
Vacuum: I used to wash my bedding daily in worry about re-infecting myself, then started vacuuming it daily instead. Much faster. Same with sox becuz of the washer. Cleaned up one vacuum head and save it just for bed/clothes. Vacuum first inside & out, then wash sox (same idea for underwear) separately first in a bucket with a plunger and lots of detergent, before putting in my washing machine. This forum has some great info I haven't tried on laundry detergent options. Sometimes I do a small wash in the machine with water only to see how many filaments are in there, scoop out with a cup, and let it wash without clothing to try to clean it out of the smallest filaments. I also have an air purifier I carry from floor to floor.
Cats: Still looking for help for my cat did the search feature but nothing came up. I put 2 drops of aloe in his water some weeks and use an aloe-herbal liquid spray on his coat when combing him, but hope there is more. Maybe the silver? Stilling waiting for it to arrive. I used regular colloidal silver with no noticeable results. Fabulous to read about menthol crystals in a diffuser to clear my car!! Can I really drive without the windows down chilly in winter but learned to love it as 'they' blew out .
H2O2 or Vit C therapy: I am doing another round now of H2O2 treatments intravenously with a preventive medical doctor.difficult to find and some will not do it. IV makes quite a difference, used for some cancer therapies. I see improvement, much coming out at first, but it's gradual and don't know how much it can completely clear. Was my best to date with the first sessions, but also was on clarithromycin. Now the Bactrin, thanks to Mel !! You are such an encouragement!!
The H2O2 is pricey treatment, but becuz I had such good results for bathing head/ears with the diluted 3% H2O2 from a pharmacy, I had to try it in a stronger form. Took some time for head improvement, still my worst area for many tiny tiny filaments, like 1 mm. The alternative to H2O2 is Vitamin C therapy as it apparently helps the body produce H2O2. Alternative practitioners who cannot do the hydrogen peroxide offer the Vit C therapy. This week someone suggested I ingest Vit C with the most bioavailable being Lypo-Spheric C. Haven't ordered this one yet but perhaps someone will do a search on it to try. Website has good info on it at www.livonlabs.com 30 capsules $40. Has anyone else done H2O2 intravenously or vitamin C therapy with positive results?
Iodine: I still ingest clear potassium iodine, 3-4 drops daily, and take vitamin D daily as part of my supplements, aiming to eliminate a parathyroid growth from low D, per my doctor's guidance. The report link here says that 79% of Morgellon sufferers have thyroid dysfunction. Iodine helps thyroid and parathyroid function, moreso, the clear potassium iodine (prescription). Lugol's red iodine (OTC) was the only remedy that helped the annoying scab-like growth in my throat and the scalp crawling sensations, at its worst,when not permiting sleep. It also flushed many things out with first use. Of course, you can dilute it. If you are desperate, it's better to get relief than shoot yourself (a poor joke, but true!). 3 days use should not overload a system as many people are deficient and Lugol's red iodine does not seem to have strong uptake by the body. It's important to listen to you own body and use common sense with short-term application of something like iodine, but it used to be used in surgery rooms to sterilize the torso before the cut.
The test to see if you are overdosing is said to be to swab your arm with the red iodine, and if the color is still there after 24 hrs, then you don't need more iodine. We are all different, but this entire journey is painful trial and error to find any form of relief acceptable to each individual. Being alive is not enough, there must be some quality to it and in sharing our experiences, I'm sure we will find a way to re-gain our lives.
Such a great site..I thank you all. Sounds like we all grew much closer to our Creator through this science-fiction nightmare. Apology for the long-winded saga, which I'll work to not repeat! (sorry Mel, you may have much editing to do). Blessings and thank you for your insights.
| Gina with 2 kids
5/2/2010
1:33:22 AM
| Hello Mel and All!
I haven't been on here for a week or more, and apparently there is another Gina on here now!! Hi other Gina!! I am the one with the two children who had this, and 'thought' we were cured. I believe at our '5 week crazies' time some signs resurfaced, but hardly what it used to be. I still will get welts on my skin, like something is really irritated from time to time. I do not feel the tickles,or bites at all, and by the next day those will disappear,and sometimes others appear (today none at all). Ironically, this seemed to coincide with my going back on the Wellness supplements that I had taken a break from for a month or more. So, to me that says they hate that stuff! (I only re-started with the Magnifical and the CoQ10 and got the welts). I still use all the laundry products and hair products. I still have the little white flecks in my scalp, but rarely any itching anywhere. Also, almost no itching or findings in the nose, ears or eyes. My son has NOTHING! My daughter has a little red rashy looking 'pimples' scattered on her face or on a hand/arm on occassion. It is hard to tell with her if it is Morgellons or a childhood illness, as we have recently been beseiged with several flu-like illnesses in a row...to the extent of hospitalizing my son for pneumonia. (I believe it was the swine flu...but can't get the docs to say it). Thankfully, he recovered overnight and has been really healthy. I must say, since this thread is on the silver....what I God-send the Molecula silver is!!! Wow! I had the intestinal flu and suffered nearly ready to vomit for 7 hours before I thought to try it. I had a painful cramping stomach and gave it a shot. I felt the knot melt away within 20 seconds of the first teaspoon! I took 3 more tsp. and the whole illness was gone, gone, gone! What a miracle cure! As I said, we had a slew of ailments....I later had a sinus infection and it was progressing to my lungs...the same thing my son had...I had run out of the silver....so none of us had the chance to use it. I ordered more and it cleared up my infections in two days! Out of the lungs in the first dose! This really does work! I give it to the kids preventatively now if I think they were around a germ! So, we are still happy and thankful for all the remedies we learned on here! If anyone needs to contact me, Pamela Mae knows how to reach me! Love in Christ Jesus! Gina and the kids! | pamela mae
4/30/2010
4:26:20 PM
| Hi Gina,
I will include in this post a link that is very interesting and it tells about the difference in Molecula silver and a couple others,it is from the MMS site.
I think it will help.
clickhere
I would also like to ad a little something and hope it will also help.
As Jancie stated on her products from HIlltop Acres,be very careful how much you apply to your head.
I am cautious with what I put on my head as I really goofed and put some strong things and found that the head is a rigorous transmitter of what you put on it.
I just about did myself in with things I used by mixing and over applying,and Janice from Hilltop had the same experience in fact.
(She tests her new mixes on herself :-0hhhh nooo!
I am very careful now with essential oils or anything concentrated herbs even,that I apply to the head area.
So for what its worth that's my input.
Pray for Gods richest blessings to you,
Pamela Mae | johnb
4/30/2010
11:51:57 AM
| Good Morning Ladies,
First let me make it clear that I am not a medical doctor... just someone with a lifelong hunger and thirst for knowledge of how the human body works and how to support its functions naturally.
My father, Carson Burgstiner MD was a physician (OB/GYN)and a pioneer of nutritional medicine. It is my great honor and privilege to carry on on with his legacy, the Burgstiner Wellness Protocol, which forms the nutritional component of Mel's protocol.
As for the differences between Molecula Silver and Nutrasilver, it depends upon who you ask. According to NutraSilver proponents, it is a suspension of ionized, colloidal silver in distilled water. The suspension is reportedly created through a proprietary process where water is negatively charged and clustered so that the silver is well suspended, and theoretically better absorbed.
Personally, I have had no experience with the product. Mel's experience with it was apparently unimpressive.
According to A2Z Wellness Products, distributors of Molecula Silver, it is unique among colloidal silver products because its physical properties have been altered so that it performs as a gas or ether in the body, with greatly enhanced absorption properties. As you know, Mel is an advocate of Molecula Silver because of the results he has seen from using it.
Although I must admit that I find the scientific explanation offered for the product unsatisfying, it is hard to argue with results. I used it myself to clear up a bronchial infection last year.
A word of caution is warranted on the iodine scalp painting suggestion. Iodine is quite readily absorbed through the skin and directly feeds thyroid production. It is normally given in very small doses because when overdosed, it can trigger anxiety, heart palpitations, dangerous arrhythmias and even heart attacks.
Iodine is a critically important nutrient that many Americans (and likely most if not all Morgellons sufferers) lack in sufficient levels to promote healthy thyroid function. However, as I said, it must be used in small amounts and with caution.
Blessings,
John B | GinaH
4/30/2010
10:19:07 AM
| Thank you for all the feedback. Yes, the iodine may be toxic with too much use, but I was desparate and shocked to see so much come from my head the first time....long, fine curly...like a telephone cord but like silk strands. That was early on, but 3 to 4 days use only.
Very much appreciate the difference between NutraSilver versus Molecula, which is harder to get in Canada with double shipping charges. We do run out of financing ability with this condition.No point buying one that hasn't had succcess for others with this though!
I am now applying Neem lotion and will go back to the B Complex vitamins, especially B12, since reading your site further. Such encouragement to hear someone beat this condition - thank you all.
| mel
4/28/2010
10:40:16 AM
| Hiya Gina,
Welcome.
Are you the Gina that has recently reported the improvement of her two children? The reason I ask is to maintain clarity.
Since your IP address was different from hers, it led me to ask this question. If you are indeed a different person, in the future please add your last initial to your posts in order to maintain clarity and integrity in our website.
In response to your question about silver, I want to say that I tried Nutrasilver and had absolutely no benefit (I ended up returning it for a refund). When I switched to Molecula Silver, I found that it gave me an energy surge in the morning and it was a fantastic antifungal.
I never tried any of the things you mentioned in this post, therefore I remind all of you DO NO HARM, checK with your doctor before trying any of these suggestions!
Hope this answers your questions.
God Bless, never give up Hope,
Mel | Teresa
4/27/2010
9:03:40 AM
| Hi Gina...Thank you sooooo much for all the info. I'm not the one who asked, but I was about to. You asked about the difference between NutriSilver and Molecula Silver...I think either Mel explains it or Dr. Burgstiner does, and I want to say from memory the NutriSilver is NOT the one to use, but again please check that out. | Gina **
4/26/2010
12:46:00 PM | Suggestions for the person with the moving parasite in hair/head -
have you tried soaking in the tub with a full bottle of hydrogen peroxide (from drug store 3%)? This is very effective for ears, etc. Submerge all but your nose/eyes, and over them you can place a washcloth wrung out of tub water. Stay 15 minutes to 30 if possible.
Also skin application of coconut oil with oregano oil drops, thyme and atlas cedar (if a 3 oz bottle coconut oil, use a total of 1 1/2 oz of the essential oils oregano especially). APply in scalp before bed and even down at scalp level during day, and/or whole body. Aloe vera cream with bee propolis is another option but more expensive at the rate needed to be used for this situation.
Forever Living products has a shampoo and conditioner based on aloe vera, which is quite effective for the scalp. Aloe vera on skin also helps, sometimes causes an area to turn very red as if burning something underneath, looks very dry, then heals to look like normal skin. You can checkout atouchofhealth.ca for more info on the products but are easily available.
Painting the scalp with red iodine is also a good option, altho this will burn after awhile. (Lugol's Iodine from health food stores). It's OK for 3 - 4 days or to tolerance. Painting your scalp with iodine may force stuff out of your head, so wear a cotton scarf to collect anything, as polyester is avoided by the parasites, but not the cotton. Better out than in, as they saying goes. Applying the aloe-vera based hair conditioner during the daytime (down into the scalp and rub in) also helps with crawling in skin.
You may get some relief with borax baths (start with 1/4 cup up to 1/2) - very anti-fungal. It's in the grocery stores, a box, in the laundry section. Hope some of these suggestions give you some measure of relief!
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